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Thursday, January 19, 2006

Liberal media calls Osama bin Laden an “Exiled Saudi dissident”

Written by Joel Johannesen on Thursday January 19 2006 at 10:25 AM

That’s how he’s described in Yahoo News photos today, following his new threats to launch fresh terrorist attacks against innocent people.  (Hat tip:  Exile).

Calling him a terrorist would be politically incorrect, and liberals are all about the politically correct. 

Here’s their picture and their caption:

imageAP - Thu Jan 19, 10:31 AM ET Exiled Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden is seen in this April 1998 file photo in Afghanistan. Al-Jazeera aired an audiotape purportedly from Osama bin Laden on Thursday, Jan. 19, 2006, saying al-Qaida is making preparations for attacks in the United States but offering a truce to rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan. (AP Photo)



Meanwhile, in other news stories, France said today that they would use nuclear weapons against terrorists.  Mon Dieu.  Liberal-left Canadians view France as the liberal motherland.  Socialist, anti-American, fraidy-cats (these are good things to them), and, well, European.  I wonder what they think now. 

And you know the liberals in Canada will be reading the story because it comes from Brest, France. 

BREST, France (Reuters) - France said on Thursday it would be ready to use nuclear weapons against any state that carried out a terrorist attack or used weapons of mass destruction against it.
Reaffirming the need for its costly nuclear deterrent, President Jacques Chirac said security came at a price and France must be able to hit back hard at a hostile state’s centers of power and its “capacity to act.”



Meanwhile here in Canada, leader of the socialist you’ve got to be kidding party, Jack Layton, (he’s “progressive”!) said that Canadians don’t want our troops fighting like such bullies in Afghanistan.  And you know the liberal-left will be reading the story because it comes from Toronto. 

TORONTO (CP) - As Canadian troops prepare to do battle with insurgents in the mountains of southern Afghanistan, NDP Leader Jack Layton says the public is not in favour of going on the offensive in that war-torn country.

He pledged Tuesday to use his party’s influence in the next Parliament to maintain the Canadian military’s good-guy peacekeeper role around the world.

“Our view is that Canadians support the peacekeeping role,” he said following a speech to the Toronto Board of Trade.

“But what Canadians do not support, in my view, is a war-like offensive role in the context of Afghanistan.”

[...] “Canada’s role is the peacekeeping role, the peacemaking role, nothing more than that,” he said.

 

Posted by Joel Johannesen on   Thu, January 19, 2006 at 10:25:00 AM
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  1. Mercuda says:

    You talk like an American. When you say that “Liberals” do not call Osama a terrorist, do you mean members of the Liberal party, or Liberals in the ideological sense? Aren’t you a Liberal when it comes to fiscal policies? The Conservative Party certainly is: Free market economy, limitations of the powers of government, ties with the Fraser Institute (who have looked to the works of classical Liberals such as Milton Friedman and Friedrich Von Hayek). In many ways they’re classically Liberal, along with many supposedly “right wing” bloggers. There’s nothing truly conservative about free-market capitalism. Diefenbaker and every Conservative before him would agree.
    My best guess is you use the word “Liberal” to describe anynone who disagrees with your party.
    Osama is a terrorist, and anybody who calls him otherwise is not a “Liberal”, but a fool.

    Posted by Mercuda  from   on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 12:28:30 PM
  2. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Jack Layton thinks that Canadian troops are in Afghanistan keeping the peace?  News flash Jack, there is no peace to keep!  There never will be peace in Afghanistan until the terrorists are defeated.  Canadian troops are in Afghanistan at the invitation of a grateful democratically elected government.  They are not there as peacekeepers, they are there as peacemakers.  There is a big difference. There is no excuse for such moronic utterings from opportunistic minded politicians like Jack Layton.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Winnipeg (Gateway to the West)  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 12:33:16 PM
  3. Exile says:

    liberal/conservative today has nothing to do with the dictionary definition mercuda and you doubtlessly are fully aware of it.

    Yet you finish with the exact point that Joel was making,

    Osama is a terrorist, and anybody who calls him otherwise is not a “Liberal”, but a fool

    In this case, we are pointing out how the lefty-liberal Associated Press is staffed with fools.

    Posted by Exile  from  Warawa Country!  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 12:33:43 PM
  4. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    “But what Canadians do not support, in my view, is a war-like offensive role in the context of Afghanistan.(Jack Layton)”

    I hate to tell you, Jacko, but our peacekeepers sometimes do end up in an offensive role - Afghanistan is smack dab in the middle of a WAR  on terrorism and I certainly don’t think our peacekeepers are going to shy away if they or our allies are attacked.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 1:09:31 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  5. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I think it’s time Jack gets back on the yellow submarine. Does he have a clue?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  ont  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 1:42:11 PM
  6. Mercuda says:

    Exile - No, you are not simply pointing out “how the lefty-liberal Associated Press is staffed with fools”. Joel himself wrote that Liberals (in general I am guessing) are “all about the politically correct”, which is why they supposedly call Osama an “exiled Saudi dissident” as opposed to a terrorist. He also makes a connection between the Liberal-left (a made-up ideology for these purposes - a true leftist is occasionally only liberal in the social realm) and a love for France. France is socialist by North American standards, but here you call it “Liberal”. Why? Because they are “‘fraidy cats” (who for some reason have created some of the most sophisticated weaponry in modern warfare) or because they disagree with you?
    Definitions are important because your language is dividing Canada into two camps. All socialists are becoming “Liberal” along with social or economic liberals, while some economic or classical liberals and social conservatives are becoming “Conservative”. Most of the time the ideology is being confused with a party (who’s ideologies are incoherent - ie: a focus on preserving the family along with libertarian-like free market capitalism in the case of the Conservative Party, and social responsibility along with the decriminalization of prostitution and certain drugs in the case of the NDP).
    Your dualistic approach to politics is sad because it requires virtually no thought.

    Posted by Mercuda  from   on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 1:45:53 PM
  7. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    This idea of Canada’s military being peacekeepers and that is the end all and be all is absolutely ridiculous.

    We only got into peacekeeping in the first place because it was in keeping with a strategy to keep the USSR and US from getting into WW III over the periphial conflicts.

    Thus, the only reason we ever got involved, as a military, to begin with was as a war strategy.

    But more to the point, I would liked to of had Mr. Layton with me in Somilia and Yugoslavia during the early ninety’s and have him explain to me the difference between war and peace operations. I, or my troops, were certainly having a hard time distinguishing.

    Moreover, on my latest deployment (where I will not mention) I was twice given an order to stand in the middle of two waring factions that were ready to engage. With no gaurentee that they would listen to me as they raced towards each other on the battlefield. Steps were certainly taken to be ready to return fire and extract ourselves should nobody be willing to listen.

    It is all good to be on the sides of angels, but you better be carrying a pretty big gun if you want anyone to listen.

    When 9/11 happened we joined the war on terrorism. The only way that peace will happen in Afghanastan is if men and women of the western world are willing to put there lives on the line to rid the place of the “scumbags” that are currently hiding in the mountains and waiting for us to turn tail and run back to our safe 3-bedroom homes and SUVs. Then they can begin to brutalize that population all over again.

    We made a commitment to that country. Let’s see it through. God forbid we may have to get our hands a little dirty. It reminds me of a flag we painted on farm that was on a hill overlooking the Croatians. See we had just taken over the area from the French army which had withdrawn from the area after being overrun. The large Red and White flag with the Maple leaf was painted with the note underneath “These colors don’t run!”

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 1:52:22 PM
  8. BlawBlaw says:

    Doesn’t Jack think that Afghanis deserve the same freedoms we have here in Canada?  Were Canadians wrong to fight the wars and battles we have fought to gain our freedoms?  What is wrong for Canadians to help others fight for their freedoms?

    In BC, teachers had their pay withheld while they went on an illegal strike.  In Afghanistan, the Taliban chops the heads off of teachers who teaching girls.

    What will stop the Taliban?  Finger wagging?  Harsh language?  Banning their handguns?

    Posted by BlawBlaw  from   on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 1:53:48 PM
  9. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    Mercuda, you’re a communist. 

    Everybody check out his communist web site, called commiesutra.com

    Thanks. 

    OK now let’s move on with people who aren’t communists.

    Thanks again.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 1:59:19 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  10. Exile says:

    LOL Joel

    My eyes just glazed over at his response.  As if I’m going to waste my time reading badly structured gibberish.

    Mercuda:  the Enter key is your friend.

    Posted by Exile  from  Warawa Country!  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 4:18:07 PM
  11. Proud Reformer says:

    I three years, when Iraq is a proud country with a constitional democracy, I wonder what they will think of Canadians who would rather see them still under the clutches of the murdering dictator, Sadam Hussien?

    Posted by Proud Reformer  from   on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 4:34:17 PM
  12. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Canada=Peacekeeping???  HAHAHLOLOO..TOO FUNNY!  Where do we rank..48th?  Canada’s “UN babysitting roles” are just that 99% of the time with our troops put in total harms way with most of the time totally indefensible terms of engagement.  I am sickened by anyone stupid or leftwing enough to vote for either the Liberals or their miscreant cousins the NDP.  Canadian Armed Forces personnel are AMAZING, but Canada is not..any longer.  What kind of country treats its most self sacrificing population with such disrespect and worse with mockery and intellectual disdain?  Evil left wing anti American/Christian pacifists..that is who. 

    I personally think we should triple our military into a highly mechanized first strike/defense/emergency response force.  I also think that every single Canadian/Immigrant should have mandatory enlistment for a minimum of one year with mandatory drug and alcohol screening in place..that would take care of a staggering amount of problems right off the top!  Why not?  Do you think you are too good to serve your country?  Hmm..anyone that thinks their too good..take three steps to the left and..jump.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 4:59:21 PM
  13. MORGUE says:

    I hate to shock the lefties out there but I am a Soldier FIRST, peacekeeper SECOND.  In my opinion Diefenbaker and TRUDEAU really gutted the canadian forces.  In 1945 we were the the fourth largest army.  We were respected all over the world for our bravery and work ethic.  Although working with a strapped budget, endless political red tape and broken promises we continue to do our job and do it well.  While not the richest army, our soldiers are second to none.  And yes Osamma Bin Laden is a TERRORIST, damnit state sponsored media call a spade a spade.

    Posted by MORGUE  from   on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 6:00:56 PM
  14. Mercuda says:

    So If I was a communist, which I’m not, nothing that I say would be valid? And how does that address anything I said? If anything, you’ve proven there is an intellectual void in the Conservative movement.

    Yes, our site is called “Commiesutra”. This might be because we’re joking most of the time. Then again, I might have been dead serious when I wrote about how communists were better in bed.

    Since you people have a hard time understanding me I’ll opt to use the “Enter” key more often and use words all of you can understand.

    Posted by Mercuda  from   on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 8:53:45 PM
  15. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    I’m bored with you already.  Don’t come back.  Thanks.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 9:04:49 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  16. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Hey Mercuda commies are not better in bed they are just bettr dead.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  China  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 9:18:19 PM
  17. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    You say your site is joking most of the time, how funny do you find that

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  China  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 9:21:01 PM
  18. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    If people like Layton were running the show when WWII broke out, we wouldn’t have to worry about voting.  We’d be polishing our swastikas and listening to Hitler’s successor on the radio.

    I support a strong military, and I have the utmost respect for our men and women in uniform!  (God bless you all and keep you safe and strong!  Thank you for your service!)

    Wanna keep the peace?  Send the RCMP.  Let our troops do what they’re best at!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Ontario  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 10:02:55 PM
  19. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Section98..good one.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 19, 2006 at 10:27:00 PM
  20. BlawBlaw says:

    “Definitions are important because your language is dividing Canada into two camps. All socialists are becoming “Liberal” along with social or economic liberals, while some economic or classical liberals and social conservatives are becoming “Conservative”. Most of the time the ideology is being confused with a party..”

    There is little point in talking about “classic” liberalism and conservatism because those terms are out of date and mostly irrelevant to 21st century Canadian political discourse.

    In general, social conservatives believe in universal moral standards and personal responsibility.  Social liberals are more into relativism and notions of people being victims of circumstance.

    In general, fiscal conservatives believe in smaller government, smaller government debt, balanced budgets and economic individualism.  Fiscal liberals want bigger governmen, are less or not concerned with how to pay for it, and tend towards economic collectivism.

    Small “c” conservatives tend to be Conservatives.  Small “l” liberals tend to support the Liberals or NDP.

    There are some exceptions such as libertarians (fiscally conservative and socially liberal), Anarchists (who are fiscally liberal by ideology but oppose government in general) along with Red Tories and Blue Liberals who are a rather small group at this point but are perhaps closest to the “classic” models.

    I don’t think that anyone here is so daft to think that Conservatives and Liberals are homogeneous, but we use shorthand so that every post does not have to be as long as this one.

    Posted by BlawBlaw  from   on  Fri, January 20, 2006 at 9:27:50 AM
  21. Mercuda says:

    Blaw Blaw -
    “I don’t think that anyone here is so daft to think that Conservatives and Liberals are homogeneous”

    I guess that’s one area where you and I would disagree then. Judging by the language used here most of the time and the types of visitors (ie: some hate-filled bigots) I am sure some people have begun to believe there are basically two types of people on this earth.

    The Americans began the same way, and now there are (apparently) only two types of Americans.

    And I believe the terms I’m using are more relevant than ever. So does the Fraser institute. Their studies are referring more and more the works of classical liberals, and if the Conservatives aren’t the most averse to macro-economic policies, I don’t know who is.

    Posted by Mercuda  from  Etobicoke, ON  on  Fri, January 20, 2006 at 11:52:19 AM
  22. BlawBlaw says:

    There certainly is an “us vs. them” mentality in that people will either vote for the Conservatives or they will not for any number of reasons that Conservative supporter consider invalid.

    It the USA the divide is a bit more obvious because there are only two parties of any consequence.

    And if you want to read some hate-filled bigotry, go to babble.com and suggest that you are going to vote Conservative.

    Yes, the Fraser Institute will refer to the works of “classic liberals” but I don’t recall them using that particular term in their discourse.  If you have a particular reference in mind, then let me know.

    “if the Conservatives aren’t the most averse to macro-economic policies, I don’t know who is. “

    I am assuming that what you mean is that fiscal conservatives prefer a hands-off macro-economic policy.  They have a general aversion to policies that try to fiddle about with the economy to move it in one direction or another.  If you mean something else, then you will have to explain.

    Posted by BlawBlaw  from   on  Fri, January 20, 2006 at 12:27:31 PM
  23. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    But then you’re discussing with a Communist.  So that helps explain the hooey.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Fri, January 20, 2006 at 1:49:30 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

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