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Thursday, January 26, 2006

CBC suggests….“Heil Harper”? That’d be a Mistake.

Written by Joel Johannesen on Thursday January 26 2006 at 06:29 AM

The Liberal Party has officially completed its unsuccessful campaign of hate against all conservative Canadians, but the state-run CBC never finished its campaign—its mission—even if the election is over. 

I captured a moment from the state-run media’s headline news show, through which they hope to educate the citizens with their official state-sponsored news and leftist muckraking and attitude adjustment of Canadians on behalf of, well, not conservative Canadians, it seems to me.

They claim they made a mistake. 

Well they did. 

UPDATE:  Video flick removed due to threat from CBC

Click to watch Watch the Heil Harper Mistake 




UPDATE:  Catch the good write-up about our blog entry and comments at the very good Lifesite.net. 

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  1. daverbonz's avatar daverbonz says:

    Total 100% bull-chips they made a mistake.  I heard their explanation this morning on the Lowell Green show and it was just a pathetic explanation.  Heads should roll over this. 

    Disband the CBC.  It’s usfullness is long since past.

    Posted by daverbonz  from  Ottawa, Ontario...Nepean/Carleton  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 7:49:32 AM
  2. Monty says:

    CBC?? Mistake??  Like heil it was.

    Posted by Monty  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 7:52:17 AM
  3. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Is their a final approval process for garbage like this before it is aired?  You bet there is.  This is so in your face it would have been impossible to overlook. There can be no excuse for ‘such a poor pasting job’ let alone airing this disgustingly blantant comparison of Stephen Harper to Nazis.  Mistake my ass.  Oh, and by the way, I almost puked reading the Globe and Mail yesterday. I haven’t experienced so my whining since my last visit to the Humane Society.  No I did not buy it, somebody left it behind on the table in Tim Horton’s and I was obviously bored.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Winnipeg (Gateway to the West)  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 8:00:28 AM
  4. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    No less than Peter Mansbridge himself should apologise to Stephen Harper on The National tonight. And if Mansbridge has any class at all he will.

    We should not just let another one of these ‘slip by’ with the pathetic CBC response of ‘oh it was just a mistake’. Yes, heads should roll…it was obviously intentional.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Prairie Canada  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 8:29:25 AM
  5. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Great video. I saw it too and do not believe the explanation.

    As CFRA’s Lowell Green said this a.m. “..and my name is Napoleon”

    I hope the apologist didn’t miss his/her coffee break in coming up with this creativity.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Ottawa  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 8:40:25 AM
  6. daverbonz's avatar daverbonz says:

    I hope the apologist didn’t miss his/her coffee break in coming up with this creativity.

    Are you kidding.  Probably sunning themeselves down in Cancun on a professional developmnt project for their creativity.

    Posted by daverbonz  from  Ottawa, Ontario...Nepean/Carleton  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 8:42:33 AM
  7. wellandboy says:

    That was an unsatisfactory explanation, it was deliberate. I do not want this “unfortunate mistake” to die until there is a thorough reckoning of who did this. If this had been perpetrated on the Left , they’d be screaming Hate Crime. Enough is enough.

    Posted by wellandboy  from  Welland Ontario  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 8:46:32 AM
  8. gotabrain's avatar gotabrain says:

    Maybe the new government should make a “mistake” and forget to put CBC’s cheque in the mail.

    Posted by gotabrain  from  The Peoples Republic of Ontario  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 8:49:21 AM
    — gotabrain's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “A man can no more diminish God’s glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, ‘darkness’ on the walls of his cell.” C.S. Lewis

  9. Monty says:

    Wellandboy: My sentiments exactly. I’ve seen the media set up so many Reform/Alliance people in the past… and I really mean set up. The media took what they said and twisted it until they had all the lefties screaming homophobe, racist, etc. I always find the ones who scream “racist” the loudest, are usually the biggest racists. What the CBC did here was offend many, many Canadians and it shouldn’t be tolerated any more.

    Posted by Monty  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 8:58:59 AM
  10. MikeR says:

    Thanks again, Joel. Your video capture and editing is a wonderful tool in exposing and fighting the liberal MSM.

    Posted by MikeR  from  Calgary, Alberta  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:01:24 AM
  11. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    We need to make our opinions known to the CBC ombudsman here on this blatant attack on Stephen Harper, his government and the people of Canada who support him!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Chilliwack, BC  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:08:18 AM
  12. Chazz's avatar Chazz says:

    Cathy, your CBC ombudsman link doesn’t work. The URL is wrong. FYI.

    Posted by Chazz  from  London, Ontario  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:23:40 AM
  13. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    CBC ombudsman:  I got annoyed with the CBC recently (believe it or not) and phoned them.  The ombudsman had died and at that point (max 6 weeks ago) they had not appointed another.  So anyone in the posish will be new.

    I suggest going straight to Robert Rabinovitch (chairman?) or Tony Burman, news head.

    What these news orgs do is to refute each charge with a vaguely plausible response.  That way it’s really hard to pin them down unless you categorize ALL their programming; this is tough and costly to do.

    To prove their bias I like to couple two things about the CBC (also BBC and many other Cs.)

    1)  refusing to use the word “terrorist” - this is the standard THEY set for being unbiased

    2) Rabinovitch’s comment that of course they were against the Iraq war - who wouldn’t be?

    Slam dunk.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:33:35 AM
  14. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    My wife and I saw it too. 

    We couldn’t believe our eyes.

    I’m glad you’re doing something about it, Joel.

    Keep it up.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Guelph, On  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:42:26 AM
  15. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Sorry.  Here’s the link to the website:

    CBC ombudsman

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Chilliwack, BC  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:43:09 AM
  16. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Back in December during the election, the CBC had some political cartoons they were showing on their web site.
    They had a small thumbnail of the Stephen Harper cartoon as a link to the rest, well that miniature thumbnail had Harper doing the Zig Heil, it was pointed out to them by myself and other bloggers.
    They grudgingly removed it and kinda apologised, calling it a mistake or something…....
    Two references to Harper as a Nazi in 1 month.
    ....THIS HAS GOT TO STOP…...
    I want heads to roll, we all must keep up the presure, contact your MP, write letters to the news editors, inform the blog world, we have to shame all involved.
    If we don’t…...the Canada we know and love will cease to exist…

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:43:33 AM
  17. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Here’s a sobering thought. Think of a time before Joel’s weblog, or before other conservative weblogs…Just imagine the stuff the CBC got away with before we had the technology to catch them in the act.

    Nothing less than a total admission of guilt, an apology to Stephen Harper, and somone getting fired is needed here. For the CBC to try to cover it up by lying about it makes it even worse.

    Then again, their just following the example set by their mom and dad, the Libranos.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Prairie Canada  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:09:44 AM
  18. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    That Liberal buffoon Mike Duffy is hammering the Prime Minister for not giving his left wing CBC the total and constant access they were used to by that ego maniac Paul (where is my Prozac) Martin.  It is shocking that no one is holding the CBC accountable (or other talking heads) for their pathetic attacks against the Prime Minister.  Next thing you know the CBC will hire Rosie O. as a Parliamentary reporter!!!!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodomyland & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:10:21 AM
  19. MikeR says:

    Mike Duffy is a CTV reporter, not CBC. Still left wing, mind you.

    Posted by MikeR  from  Calgary, Alberta  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:15:52 AM
  20. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Mike Duffy’s brother has worked at the CBC for 14 years in editing.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodomyland & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:17:48 AM
  21. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Is it true the the hardcore lesbian femminist top manager at the CBC attending Rosie O’s. gay couple cruise??  I just heard that on NW.  Apparently they are best friends it was alleged?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodomyland & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:20:29 AM
  22. killersmurf says:

    A BAD CUT AND PASTE JOB?

    I would have failed jr kindergarten for a cut and paste job that bad.

    Posted by killersmurf  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:26:57 AM
    — killersmurf's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.

  23. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    WOW..anyone watching the Prime Ministers speech this morning must liken it to having every single feminists, socialist, anti-Christian hating, Liberal/NDP attack artist being allowed to throw darts at the Prime Minister.  You can just see the glee in their faces when stating their left wing loaded venom on him.  I pray that the Prime Minister truly does disband the CBC.  It is so painfully obvious that the media at the speech this a.m. hate Stephen Harper..in particular the young and female ones.  It was like holding the media scrum in Vancouver’s west end for crying out loud.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodomyland & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:34:24 AM
  24. wellandboy says:

    The new CBC ombudsman for English Services is Vince Carlin. My letter to him cc.‘d to my MP and the Conservative Party of Canada will be sent forthwith .

    Posted by wellandboy  from  Welland Ontario  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:55:14 AM
  25. daverbonz's avatar daverbonz says:

    Wellandboy, would you send it to same link above given for the CBC Ombusdmen.

    And I agree, it should be cc’d to your MP whether or not it’s a lieberal or whatever.

    Posted by daverbonz  from  Ottawa, Ontario...Nepean/Carleton  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 11:03:46 AM
  26. wellandboy says:

    Actually daverbonz, I’m going to send my letter, e-mail as an attachment, plus a hard copy to follow by registered mail. Bureaucrats hate registered letters because they have to respond. It’s worth a few bucks to make squirm. I’ll personally drop off the cc. letter to my recently re-elected Liberal MP along with another letter asking him why he hasn’t followed up on a local issue from 6 months ago. It’s worth it to look into their eyes and watch them squirm. If we bury them in complaints we can all take satisfaction in watching them squirm. Try it you’ll like it.
    Squirm- to feel or exhibit signs of humiliation or embarrassment.

    Posted by wellandboy  from  Welland Ontario  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 11:31:52 AM
  27. wellandboy says:

    Info as per above:
    E-mail:
    .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

    Mail:
    Vince Carlin
    Ombudsman
    CBC
    P.O. Box 500, Station A
    Toronto, Ontario M5W 1E6
    Fax: 416/205-2825
    Tel.: 416/205-2978

    Posted by wellandboy  from  Welland Ontario  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 11:37:07 AM
  28. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I just sent in a complaint, AGAIN! Here is what I sent these REAL Nazis:

    The disgraceful “mistake” of having the words “Harper heil” on the CBC broadcast of the National, has only served to increase the desire for the new government to disband the CBC. And it will. Only this time it won’t be a “mistake”!!!
    I, for one am counting the days…TICK TOCK!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  hamilton,ont.  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 11:37:54 AM
  29. High Chaparral says:

    To 14 News outlets and the CBC
    Just sent:

    You sick bastards!

    How dare you do such a such a thing!

    The CBC, the personal playground of anti-Canadians,  thinks it has the right to inflame and incite to riot!

    The CBC aired a video clip showing Stephen Harper’s name and the word heil.

    It was no ‘mistake’ it was a deliberate and calculated attack!

    Class, ethnic, belief and faith based wars are tearing the world apart and the CBC puts that vomit on our televisions!

    Canadians have been threatened by acts of treason by a state funded institution being used against it’s citizens.

    What insanity pervades the CBC that these kinds of things are used against citizens of Canada.

    The persons responsible shall be immediately dismissed.

    The president of the CBC shall make a personal apology on air and in the media to Stephen Harper and to the decent Canadians who have a right to freedom from political persecution by the state.!!
    The CBC is an internal threat to unity peace and goodwill in my Canada!

    Posted by High Chaparral  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 11:59:38 AM
  30. Dacre says:

    All of the media seems to be in a full coart press. Even Roy Green on 900 CHML this morning was ripping into the Conservatives. He was angry there was no spokesman from the party to speak on air this morning. He gives the impression that they plan on being unaccessible. I emailed him and told him they were busy planning the deployment of troops in the cities and getting women out of the workforce but he may be able to reach them at a Klan meeting. He thought the Klan reference was over the top. I can see even the supposed conservative friendly media will be assisting in the attacks. Let’s get to work doing our best to damage these people before they totally destroy us. We know how gullible many Canadians are.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 12:06:24 PM
  31. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I TOLD YOU SO.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 12:09:49 PM
  32. High Chaparral says:

    Somebody got the story from the Post?
    Please link or post it.

    Posted by High Chaparral  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 1:01:07 PM
  33. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Those CBC pigs are lucky we didn’t get a majority, you bet your ass the cbc would have been the first thing to go, watch your asses cbc, your days are numbered, we will not forget this.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 1:28:28 PM
  34. odie441's avatar odie441 says:

    i don’t care if it is a Minority Gov’t, time to axe the CBC. Privatize it and see how well it survives off the public dole! That is the Liberal left for you, subliminal messages to get their message across. Reminds me of the Pravda approach during the Cold War. It appears the USSR Cold War mentality is alive and well and the CBC. Time to purge!

    Posted by odie441  from  Ottawa area  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 2:00:13 PM
    — odie441's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!!

  35. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    In addition to the ‘heil’, I was upset with the Royal Canadian Air Farce when, after some “extreme right wing quotes” re SSM they showed a picture of Harper waving goodbye and making it look like a Nazi salute. I have written to the RCAF website about it. As a survivor of WWII I found it insulting and totally out of place.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  NWO  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 2:23:45 PM
  36. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I’d like to see a comparison of the operating expences of the CBC, CTV and Global and then compare those figures to the amount of money spent per viewer for each broadcaster.  I’m betting CBC would be double or triple the cost to operate than the other two private stations. This would be a good start to getting rid of our Canadian Pravada.  Does anybody know how to get their hands on this information, and post it for all to see?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Winnipeg (Gateway to the West)  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 4:18:14 PM
  37. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    This is off topic but….just heard a comment on CTV critizing Stephen Harper for shaking hands with his kids as he saw them off to school.  He was accused of looking like he was shaking hands with a couple of his party supporters rather than his kids.  Funny, I don’t recall the media ever mentioning the fact that Paul Martin taught his kids how to screw their country out of multi-millions of tax dollars. Somehow I don’t think shaking your child’s hand can even compare. Double standard, Liberal loving, MSM hypocrits.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Winnipeg (Gateway to the West)  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 4:45:23 PM
  38. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Mike Duffy’s brother has worked at the CBC for 14 years in editing.

    Maybe he did it.

    As for the clip itself…..“cut & paste?” Every computer novice knows what cut & paste is.  Whomever was responsible KNEW what they were doing.

    Joel - the CBC logo at the end was so true - I’ve called them the Communist Broadcasting Corporation for years.

    As for the Royal Canadian Air Farce & This Hour has 22 Minutes - they’re worse than Rick Mercer.  At one time they were hilarious, but the Liberal rot has permeated them as well.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 4:46:09 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  39. Belly Button says:

    This is a repeat of what went on after George Bush won the last election.The leftist guttersnipes incessant snide comments and innuendo against Bush let up during 9-11, but is still going on. We have a rough road ahead.
    Cathy, your first link worked just fine.
    I was disgusted that the word “heil” was placed under the name of our Prime Minister Stephen Harper.Understood that the steady decline in cbc programing mirrored the decline in viewership.Coincidence?  Realized that cbc newsworld was more interested in spin that in the news. Please inform cbc newsworld that the election is over. Suggest that it be manditory for cbc staff at least once a day watch a real newscast on another network so they would be better informed & have less embarrassing moments. Then demanded a public appology for the insidious nature of the cbc. Mentioned that I sent a letter to the PMO. Wondered if an increasingly irrelevent cbc just “dissapeared”, would anyone notice?  Sort of like the dead guy that “rode” the N.Y. subway for six hours.

    Posted by Belly Button  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 4:50:00 PM
  40. Dacre says:

    As for the Royal Canadian Air Farce & This Hour has 22 Minutes - they’re worse than Rick Mercer.  At one time they were hilarious, but the Liberal rot has permeated them as well.

    Posted by conservativegal from Niagara

    I’m glad you see it that way too. When I hear people discuss these shows and how funny they are I thought I was the only one that thought they had lost their humour. The CBC’s time has come. Cut them free from the teat.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:00:02 PM
  41. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I wish to add my voice with those whom expressed their disgust with the CBC over its “Harper Heil” graphic.

    Mistake indeed.

    And they have swampland on the moon to sell, I’m sure.

    I am disgusted with the CBC’s bias and contempt towards Canadians who have voted in a particular way. Adding insult to injury is that we pay taxes to fund this self serving organization that debases political thought in this country. The arrogance of this self serving organization,  that believes that political thought should be only limited to leftists, is unbelievable.

    Is this video clip part of the CBC’s hidden agenda of making sure that conservatives are not elected in the next general election?

    I think it is. And it was no accident.

    It should be noted that the Nazis held values which were socialist, left leaning, and ultra nationalist. And those to me sound exactly like the values of certain liberals and certain members of their ideological shock troops at the CBC.

    I thought their mandate was to report the news, but I guess it has changed to subvert democracy, at any cost.

    But, there are good folks at the CBC, I am sure, who are too afraid to speak up for fear of being ridiculed or impugned.

    It would certainly help to have some dialogue on what to do with this self serving organization before the next general election can be influenced by them.

    The CBC has proven, time and time again, that they are a dangerous organization that is not to be trusted.

    Harry

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:11:50 PM
  42. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Maybe the Conseratives can sell the CBC to Fox News.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Cambridge  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:14:28 PM
  43. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    God bless the CBC! Without a public broadcaster we’d only get propaganda from the corporate controlled media. Publicly owned broadcasters are an essential part of democracy. You might as well complain about “the state controlled” police or courts or schools or army or roads.

    I’m a true patriot unlike the bozos on this site.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:14:59 PM
  44. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    #38 conservativegal (can’t see your comment number because starting a comment with a quote box does that for some reason ....argh)

    I’ve been dying to use that Communist Broadcasting logo for ages.  I’ve threatened to make t-shirts with it but I’ve already got a huge lawsuit target all over my arse, I figger, so maybe later….

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:15:03 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  45. Dacre says:

    I’m sure Mr. darcy also knows what a true canadian is. To be true patriotic canadian you have to be a lefty. Mr. darcy we’ve just been through the election and were told often enough our kind are not welcome in this country. Please tell us something we don’t know. Conservatives, Christians, oh my goodness the dangerous ones. Definitely uncanadian.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:22:16 PM
  46. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Typical Pravda BS.  Here’s an example of their creative editing and subliminal messaging that I noticed last year.

    I listen to talk radio all the time and last march or april the issue of Mother Corps renowned biases was being discussed. For an experiment I decided to compare the national newscasts of CBC, CTV and Global that night.

    Here is what I noted on the one night I decided to try this.

    A story ran on all three networks about standardized testing of kids in grades 3,6 and 9. Canadian kids had placed #1 internationally. There were also provincial breakdowns which showed Alberta kids had placed first in two of the three areas tested.

    Global and CTV reported the story consistant with what I had read in the Calgary Herald that morning and what I had heard on the radio that afternoon.

    CBC was a completely different story. Mansbridge introduces the piece with a graphic of Canada’s overall position as #1 in the background, cut to stock footage of kids in a classroom with a graphic at the bottom of the screen identifying it as MONTREAL, as this runs he speaks to the aggregate score being Canada’s strength.
    Screen changes to more stock footage of kids in a classroom, this time with the graphic reading EDMONTON. Only now the narrative is about how cutbacks have effected many areas of the country and may explain why Canada had only placed fifth in science.

    The piece now switches to stock footage of kids in a classroom with the graphic TORONTO as Mansbridge concludes on a positive note praising Canada’s overall performance.

    I watched this twice that night, on Newsworld and again later on the main network to ensure I wasn’t seeing things.

    The real facts were that the Alberta kids had placed first in all three grades in english and math and second in science. They had in fact brought up the national average.

    I guess this only proves the point that the lefty social engineering pricks at the CBC will never let the facts stand in the way of advancing thier primary agenda. The left knows best and the right is pretty much stupid, a burden to be borne by the enlightened few.

    This has caused me to wonder how much of this subliminal bullshit they have been cranking out over the years. This is manipulation of the worst kind and it sickens me to think that we pay the wages of these conniving bastards.

    I apologize for the language, but this really pisses me off.

    Syncro

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Calgary  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:40:11 PM
  47. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    If you believe that explaination I have a bridge in Brooklyn, NY that I’ll sell you, cheap!

    Don’t watch the CBC all that much, but my guess is that they thought they were witty and they were only half right!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Birmingham, Michigan (North Of Canada)  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:42:06 PM
  48. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Paranoid loonies.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 5:50:20 PM
  49. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Joel: (#44)

    I’ve been dying to use that Communist Broadcasting logo for ages.  I’ve threatened to make t-shirts with it but I’ve already got a huge lawsuit target all over my arse, I figger, so maybe later….

    I downloaded the clip so I can see it whenever I want. 

    As for the T-Shirts…..wicked, Joel, wonderfully wicked!!!!  They can wait.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 6:35:01 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  50. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Boogeyman? - you label yourself with the descriptor of an imaginary frightful ‘being’ especially one used as a threat to children in disciplining them.  And you accuse us of having a problem?

    “Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and consciencious stupidity.”
    -Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Winnipeg (Gateway to the West)  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 7:05:58 PM
  51. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    You must be joking! For anyone to take offence at what was obviously an unintended, and highly insignificant event, is childish. For everyone else who’s commented as though the event actually means something I can only say ‘give it a rest’ if you haven’t got anything more important to say then its time you got a hobby, read a good book or took a cold shower. The CBC should have told you all to get stuffed!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Victoria  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:01:21 PM
  52. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    I wonder why instead of telling folks to “get stuffed”, they issued an apology…

    We’re all crrrrrAZY!

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:05:56 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  53. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    WHy did they apologize Joel? Obviously because they are tired of being beaten up over things that wouldn’t give mature adults with any sense of proportion a moment’s thought. THere’s no doubt in my mind who’s crazy, and who’s pandering to the craziness. If you whip a dog hard enough and often enough you’ll destroy its spirit and that’s just about what’s happened to the CBC.
    cheers

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  victoria  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:16:19 PM
  54. High Chaparral says:

    Never argue with a Car jacker, An armed Lunatic or a Liberal!

    Beaten
    Crazy
    Pandering
    Whip
    Yeah, like good words for a tolerant, sensitive, inclusive Liberal trying to make a point!

    Cuckoos Broadcasting CaCa

    Posted by High Chaparral  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:47:31 PM
  55. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Give me a break! Look back at the kind of material that has been posted on this site and do an inventory of the invective that has been dumped on the CBC over, essentially, nothing. Furthermore, don’t assume you know anything about my politics and I won’t assume you know nothing about fairness and rationality despite the strong indactions to the contrary.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  victoria  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 9:57:39 PM
  56. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    jking..lolol..too funny…and who is the redneck..haha, you left wingers just crack me up Svend…oops sorry.jking aka PMPM.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodomyland & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:05:14 PM
  57. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Oh..and left wing anti-Christian metro sexual zealots..fairness?  You are my enemy.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:10:59 PM
  58. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Intolerance is often, strangely enough, exhibited more strongly against small differences than against fundamental ones. I feel sorry for you. It’s clear that people who spend their time reinforcing each other’s prejudices are not worth worrying about. That seems to be what’s happening here - much ado about nothing - I’ll waste no more time on such a project.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  victoria  on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:11:38 PM
  59. High Chaparral says:

    Ah, this site is Proud To Be Canadian.

    CBC using public money to persecute and humiliate Canadians by deliberately slanting the news or refusing opposing views on a “Reality Check” topic, now that AIN"T Canadian!

    Refusing unable or unwilling to provide services other than CBC viewpoints to remote Canada ain’t Canadian!
    Purchasing dated offshore programming in place of Canadian made programming ain’t Canadian.
    Airing programs that appeal to a very narrow demog group, ain’t Canadian!
    The BBC ain’t Canadian.
    Alternate life style prime time programming ain’t Canadian!
    Documentaries about teenage sex habits at college ain’t Canadian!
    So, tell us how any of this crap unites us as a nation?

    Posted by High Chaparral  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:29:26 PM
  60. High Chaparral says:

    Where deego?
    Someone turn on a light ?
    Indactions?
    Yeesh, I think that was Michael Ignatieff.

    Posted by High Chaparral  from   on  Thu, January 26, 2006 at 10:57:30 PM
  61. MikeR says:

    I see that some We-need-government-to-tell-us-how-to-think CBC apologists have weighed in.

    Welcome. And stick around. You may actually learn something outside of your narrow groupthink world.

    This is not “much ado about nothing”, as much as you’d like to try and dismiss it and have it go away. This disturbing pattern of anti-conservative bigotry is very prevalent in the MSM, especially the CBC (paid for with our own tax dollars even!), witnessed by many people over many years. Head over to CBC Watch for more examples.

    It’s sad that private citizens of this country have to pay out of their own pockets to set up a website dedicated to watching over state-run television, so grossly mismanaged that it has to be propped up with our tax money. CTV, Global, etc. doesn’t seem to need a billion dollars a year to survive. They seem to be doing alright on their own.

    Ask yourself this: What kind of government competes against its own citizens?

    That’s right: The CANADIAN government.

    In fairness to the other networks, I sincerely hope that this current government works towards cutting off all public funding for the CBC. It’s long overdue.

    Posted by MikeR  from  Calgary, Alberta  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 4:25:44 AM
  62. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    I know thet these two posters will probably not be back, but just in case they decide to lurk, here are some thoughts for them:

    Post #58 jking says:

    It’s clear that people who spend their time reinforcing each other’s prejudices are not worth worrying about.

    You’re right in what you say - that’s how I feel about the Liberal Party and their rabid, intolerant mouthpieces who do nothing but condemn others who don’t share their views with invective and venom instead of reasonable arguments.

    #43-mr darcy says:

    God bless the CBC! Without a public broadcaster we’d only get propaganda from the corporate controlled media. Publicly owned broadcasters are an essential part of democracy. You might as well complain about “the state controlled” police or courts or schools or army or roads.
    I’m a true patriot unlike the bozos on this site.

    Mr Darcy -
    Corporate Controlled Media? (Private Enterprise with a good subsidy thrown in for good measure)

    State controlled army & police & roads? (Who usually controls the army or police or roads?)

    Get a better view on the world - read the paper, watch “corporate controlled media” or troll the internet.  Your world will open a lot more than what the CBC feeds you - now, that’s state controlled.

    Patriot - maybe, - “Bozo” definitely, if you believe what you posted.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 8:59:28 AM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  63. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Give the CBC a break! Maybe it was a just a simple ‘cut and paste’ mistake as CBC claims. But then anybody should have been able to notice that. Maybe CBC is just hiring extra stupid people.

    Whoever did this knew what they were doing.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Calgary  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 9:28:49 AM
  64. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    If any of my employees acting on my behalf committed anywhere near such an act as perpetrated by the CBC and its employee’s’ I would terminate that employee immediately regardless of whether it was an accident or not! 

    I would of course be thrown into damage control which would of course not include blaming my now fired employee but by taking full responsibility and doing anything and everything to make it up to my client and remove any tarnish from my or my business’s reputation!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 10:30:24 AM
  65. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Just thought I’d pop back here for a minute to see whether my initial impressions about this website were correct. Unfortunately it appears they were. I think it was Samuel Johnson who said that patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels. Don’t think that the fact anyone says they are proud to be Canadian is an excuse for the kind of hatred that typifies most of the remarks in these comments. I do feel sorry for you though.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Victoria  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 10:59:44 AM
  66. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Just typical Lieberal drivel from j.king:
    The CBC comes out with a deliberate smear of the most malicious sort at the new PM, then pleads innocence when people actually object. Step two, indoctrinated Lieberal dupes accuse the people who objected to the smear, of hatred, bigotry and intolerance, and being un-Canadian.

    Don’t “feel sorry” for us, j.king. Feel ashamed at your lack of moral fiber and how you became a dupe of the most corrupt regime in Canadian history.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Vancouver Island Paradise: Port McNeill  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 12:13:51 PM
  67. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Re Post#65-jking

    You share the Liberal’s vision of “Canadian Values” - intolerance and ignorance.  You can’t present a good argument to defend your position here, just spew venom that anyone that does not share your views are intolerant and unpatriotic.

    You don’t seem to share “Canadian’s Values” of tolerance, fairness, and a belief that we can make this country a better place to live in without the scourge of “Liberal Values.”

    By the way - I didn’t make a typo - It’s the apostrophe in the word “Canadian” that differentiates “Canadian’s Values” from the Liberal version of “Canadian Values.”

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 12:33:57 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  68. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Have you actually looked at the comments I posted to this website yesterday and today?
    It might not be a bad idea to do that before you decide who is hurling invective. As for my values and my politics! You might be surprised. If you think you’re reflecting tolerance and knowledge in the things you’ve just said then I’m sorry for you too.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Victoria  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 12:43:04 PM
  69. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Samuel Johnson..if memory serves me correctly didn’t he have a mistress who had a baby out of wedlock that he spit upon?  Hmm..excellent choice for quotes stephen king.  The next time you choose to plagiarize..make sure you pick someone more in tune with yourself..sayyyy..Al Gores hairstylist. 

    Oh, and stop wasting tax payers money..your not supposed to be using the computer for personal use at the CBC..or are you..or is it just when you look at all of that gay porn?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 2:31:45 PM
  70. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    As for my values and my politics! You might be surprised.

    Then, share your values & politics with us.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 3:18:36 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  71. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Do you actually know what ‘plagiarize’ means? If you look again you’ll see that I credited the quotation to Johnson. If you want to insult the most famous lexicographer of the English language, go ahead - your ignorance tells us a great deal more about yourself than it does about the issue your comment putatively addresses.
    As I said once before, this is a total waste of valuable time. And by the way, I don’t work for the CBC - or any other government agency. Surprised!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  victoria  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 3:19:18 PM
  72. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    j.king —I get that you feel sorry for some or most all of us here.

    #58 - “I feel sorry for you”

    #65 - “I do feel sorry for you though”

    #68 - “then I’m sorry for you too”

    Nearly all of us, I gather.  And nearly all of us are very very bad, I assume from your comments. 

    We should start feeling “shame” and “remorse” for being who we are and saying the things we say.  We’re all “intolerant”.  And hateful. Or most of us are.  I get that.  And only you and your liberals are tolerant.  And loving.  And you know the way, and you will set us free with your intelligence and honesty and light.  And as you said, there’s no doubt in your mind who’s crazy.  And it is us.  We are crazy. 

    I get all that. 

    But here’s what’s what and what you don’t get:  Don’t call me crazy after years of state-run media which works against me and my interests.  In fact never call me crazy.  That’s just personally insulting.  And I won’t have that here at this web site. So run along now.

    If you have a deep-seeded problem with that, email me using the fully respectful language that I deserve and I’ll be happy to entertain the idea of reading it sometime. 

    Thanks.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 3:22:33 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  73. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    For everyone’s information, j.king replied yet again and I removed it.  He went on about how I am in fact crazy, and that it was OK to say that since in post #52 I “admitted to being crazy”.  That’s when I realized we’re dealing with little more than a child and a nuisance. 

    He also indicated, yet again because he apparently thinks we are thick,  that “That’s why I feel sorry for you,”  and then again in the second-to-last last line of his comment, “it’s pathetic and, once again, I feel sorry for you”.

    I do believe he feels very sorry for us, and now me in particular.

    His last line was, “I guess you think that freedom of speech only works one way.”

    Wait until I break some news for you all that will turn that comment on its head (it’s easy to do it even without my news).

    In the meantime, I don’t want to hear any more from him because I don’t like getting personally insulted at my own blog.  Lobbing criticisms my way or at the conservative movement—or even at nameless folks—are perfectly acceptable, as everyone here knows.  I live for it.  I wouldn’t keep a site like this for long—a Canadian conservative web site—if I didn’t thrive on getting criticised all day long and all night long as I assure you I do.  I get it 150 times a day through comments and by email, and I answer a lot of the email.  But I don’t like personal crap like this.

    And I don’t really care what he thinks about that either.

    Thanks!

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 4:37:25 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  74. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    .

    ...How, pray tell, does an independent public broadcasting system that is not under the active day to day control of any government  possibly work against you and your so-called interests?

    This is how how, jking. This is taken directly from the CBC website.

    ...The CBC occupies a unique position of trust. Not only is it the most substantial and broadly-based broadcast journalism organization in Canada, it is funded, through Parliament, by the people of Canada.

    ...(and there are plenty of examples available where both federal and provincial politicians have objected to the way CBC covers the news)

    From CBC’s stated principles:

    (a) The air waves belong to the people, who are entitled to hear the principal points of view on all questions of importance.

    (b) The airwaves must not fall under the control of any individuals or groups influential because of their special position.

    (c) The full exchange of opinion is one of the principal safeguards of free institutions.

    (d) The Corporation maintains and exercises editorial authority, control and responsibility for the content of all programs broadcast on its facilities.

    The Corporation itself takes no editorial position in its programming.

    Here is their website.  CBC

    Read about their Ombudsman.  Complaints are made about CBC only to them.  The CRTC or Cdn Broadcast Standards Council does not apply to the CBC.

    Visit cbcwatch.ca - a site specifically for complaints about the CBC.

    In my opinion (an it is shared by many, many people) the CBC is far from an “independent public broadcasting station.”
    Just as a point of interest - read below about how so-called independent private networks are funded.

    Cultural Demands

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 4:40:36 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  75. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    j.king

    Are you the guy that said Charles Adler would vote for Hitler if he were in the Conservative party?  Just wondering since you’re playing the hatred card to this website and not responding in any intelligent manner to the rebuttals on your views as that radio host did to Mr. Adler.

    CBC apologized for the Heil under Harper. Nonetheless was does that say? an exageration? Hardly.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Alberta  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 4:44:31 PM
  76. High Chaparral says:

    I wrote CBC:(Post 29)

    The president of the CBC shall make a personal apology on air and in the media to Stephen Harper and to the decent Canadians who have a right to freedom from political persecution by the state.!!
    The CBC is an internal threat to unity peace and goodwill in my Canada!

    The CBC replied:

    We would be prepared to follow up on this matter with the relevant
    programmers if you would be prepared to submit your complaint without
    gratuitous insult.

    Yours truly,

    Laura Marshall
    Assistant to the CBC Ombudsman

    So I am and I will!

    Posted by High Chaparral  from   on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 6:50:37 PM
  77. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Give us a break, people. At worst, this is some idiot’s idea of expressing his dislike of Harper, or his idea of being funny. At the most, a half dozen people across the country noticed the supposed offensive graphic. One of them who has nothing better to do than watch the loathed CBC, looking for perceived slights against “the cause”, complains about it, thereby making a story out of something that no one (except the aforementioned 1/2 dozen) even noticed. Better yet, we now see a boatload of CBC-haters using this as ammunition against the CBC and coming up with conspiracy theories. Even if the CBC was engaged in the anti-right conspiracy (or, better yet, “political persecution by the state”) you folks think they are, they’d come up with better ways of doing it than this.

    What’s ridiculous is that, even with a right-wing victory in this election, the right-wing whining hasn’t stopped. How about this idea, folks? Your side won the most recent election. The story goes that they/you did it by being positive. Instead of reverting to the angry right, take a page out of Stephen’s book. As difficult as you might find it, how about chilling out a little, being gracious in victory, and trying to show the rest of Canada that you’re actually capable of reason and moderation? Who knows, playing it cool might even get the Conservatives a few more votes and seats next time ‘round.

    Oh, and one last thing about this whining about the perceived CBC bias. When Stephen Harper wipes Kevin Newman’s lipstick off of his right buttcheek, Craig Oliver’s lipstick off of his left one, and the National Post gets rid of that brown stuff on its collective nose, then maybe you folks won’t sound so hypocritical.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Vancouver  on  Fri, January 27, 2006 at 7:39:28 PM
  78. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Rob aka Svend..when you wipe the CBC’s collective lipstick off of your zipper and move your out of the pot filled cloud it is so very obviously encased in..only then grasshopper will you see yourself for what you are…an androgynous metro sexual male with a lifetime subscription to the vagina chronicles and Barbara Streisand greatest hits DVD’s.

    Now seriously Robby..how long has you secret affair with Svendorama been going on..enquiring minds want to know..just not anyone here..so go back to babble you CBC hack.  No one is forcing you to be hear..but if you must..sit up straight and take it like a good little socialist robot.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Sat, January 28, 2006 at 2:11:00 AM
  79. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Very impressive, Robert. You’ve written a textbook example of what Joel terms “in lieu of intelligent response”. I think I’ll print out your comments, make copies, and distribute it to all the people I know who tell me that today’s Conservatives/conservatives are moderate. Oh, and tell you what: if you work really hard and take all of your medication, then maybe one day they’ll let you out of the psych ward.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Vancouver  on  Sat, January 28, 2006 at 4:57:21 AM
  80. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Who said I was moderate?  When you climb down from your ivory (sorry Vaseline) tower in the west end and have time after volunteering at the next meeting of disruptors anonymous..possibly you might consider applying on Canadian Idol..lol..because you are cracking me up.  The methods of the ultra left Vancouver urban “elite” wannabes and their sound bites never carry an original thought..just the usual “slander.”  How does it feel to look in the mirror?  Ugly isn’t it?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom  on  Sat, January 28, 2006 at 11:54:19 AM
  81. JoelF's avatar JoelF says:

    #77 Rob wrote on 27/01/2006 at 10:39 p.m.:

    Better yet, we now see a boatload of CBC-haters using this as ammunition against the CBC and coming up with conspiracy theories.  Even if the CBC was engaged in the anti-right conspiracy (or, better yet, “political persecution by the state”) you folks think they are, they’d come up
    with better ways of doing it than this.

    Get a clue, Rob. 

    Everyone knows the Liberal-friendly media including CBC oppose conservative values and opinions.  A less-than-subtle offensive graphic appeared on its newscast and the CBC offered a WEAK excuse (was an apology ever issued?) that it was a poor cut-and-paste job.

    If the Conservatives did something even remotely similar, watch how quickly your precious Hedy Fry would be all over us screaming about crosses burning along with every socialist crawling out of the woodwork bashing the Conservatives.

    Face it, the Conservatives are obviously held to a much higher standard by mainstream media than the Liberals are held.

    Posted by JoelF  from  Nation's Capital, Home of the Pork Barrell  on  Sun, January 29, 2006 at 9:52:31 AM
  82. JoelF's avatar JoelF says:

    #79

    Rob scribbled in crayon:

    I think I’ll print out your comments, make copies, and distribute it to all the people I know

    I’m surprised you actually have friends.  ;-)

    Posted by JoelF  from  Nation's Capital, Home of the Pork Barrell  on  Sun, January 29, 2006 at 9:55:53 AM
  83. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Face it, the Conservatives are obviously held to a much higher standard by mainstream media than the Liberals are held.

    That’s true today and true for any previous Conservative governments.

    Since CBC is nothing but an extension of Canada’s “natural governing party” (aka the Liberals).  they think they have the authority to make value judgements on any move the Conservatives make.

    By the way-that term-“natural governing party” has been used to describe the Liberals in many Canadian/US /world newspapers.  I did not make that up.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, January 29, 2006 at 10:06:28 AM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  84. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    conservativegal: “natural governing party” is not a symbol of the media’s bias, but their idiotic way of trying to make the point that the Liberals have been in power for most of Canada’s history. It’s the same sort of hackneyed phrase as “pillow-lipped Angelina Jolie”.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Vancouver  on  Sun, January 29, 2006 at 11:13:30 AM
  85. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    What you said in post #84
    conservativegal: “natural governing party” is not a symbol of the media’s bias, but their idiotic way of trying to make the point that the Liberals have been in power for most of Canada’s history. It’s the same sort of hackneyed phrase as “pillow-lipped Angelina Jolie”.

    What I said in post 83:
    Since CBC is nothing but an extension of Canada’s “natural governing party” (aka the Liberals).  they think they have the authority to make value judgements on any move the Conservatives make.
    By the way-that term-“natural governing party” has been used to describe the Liberals in many Canadian/US /world newspapers.  I did not make that up.

    Where did I say that this phrase was a symbol of media bias?

    Oh, and Rob (no, not Robert)

    re this comment you directed to me

    I’m plenty enlightened already, babe. smirk (smiley)

    in one of your replies in post #28 in the thread

    “Clear thinking by a bright light”:

    Don’t ever use that highlighted word in any post directed to .me again. 

    Normally, persons who are trying to have some form of intelligent debate don’t resort to phrases that suggest familiariy and affection, along with smileys to make their points.  That’s very MSM Chat Room.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, January 29, 2006 at 1:28:48 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  86. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    An authentic “C"onservative life is the most personal form of worship. Everyday life has become my prayer and every day I renew my belief in being a Conservative with open eyes I see and hear the darkness of those that would destroy it.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodomyland & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Sun, January 29, 2006 at 2:41:59 PM
  87. Derek Brower says:

    So funny reading a collection of right wing morons getting into a froth over this kind of thing.

    Enjoy the 18 months or so of “power”. Try not to spoil too much of the country, though, eh?

    Posted by Derek Brower  from  UK  on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 11:51:44 AM
  88. Dacre says:

    Thanks Derek. You sound like you’re real cool. I bet it’s frustrating when you see how stupid people are on this site. Can I be your friend cause I want to be cool and progressive like you. You must be so tolerant and inclusive and embrase diversity. I’d like to learn all that stuff from you. Have you noticed there are even some knuckle dragging Bible thumpers on this site. I want to learn how the ways of sodomy and such are good for our country, free injection sites and prostitution. All very liberating stuff that improves the quality of everybodies life. Give me a call cause I want to be cool eh man.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 12:24:36 PM
  89. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Dacre, you don’t sound like the sharpest tool in the shed. Nonetheless, I’d be grateful if you would learn how to “embrase” (sic) diversity, etc.

    By the way, you seem keen to mention sodomy and pornography. Something you want to tell us? ;)

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  UK  on  Tue, February 07, 2006 at 9:59:29 AM
  90. Dacre says:

    Derek you are correct I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed. I already bowed to your superiority. As to being keen to mention pornography I’m afraid that was you. I don’t see it in my post. Do you have something to tell us. What if I did have something to tell. Why would that be a problem if you are tolerant and understanding? I assumed and maybe I shouldn’t have that you are bigger than allowing my past or lifestyle to affect your opinion of me. See I was reaching out for a sensitive person that understands. I guess you would feel better trying to humiliate me. I would say you don’t practise what you apparently hold as important values. You actually sound like an a mean elitist type of person. I was reaching out and you have rejected me, shame on you.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Tue, February 07, 2006 at 10:47:24 AM
  91. Derekb says:

    Dacre, I’m glad you’re reaching out to me, and I feel your pain, I really do. However, your kinds of problems are probably best dealt with by the professionals.

    Keep us updated with your progress.

    Posted by Derekb  from  UK  on  Tue, February 07, 2006 at 11:13:23 AM
  92. Dacre says:

    Thanks Derek you’ve certainly changed your tone. I appreciate your recomendation for professional help. I suppose we could all use some help now and again. Although I’m not including you as I’m sure you are above that. The next time you go calling others morons, which by the way lacks sensitivity and is not politically correct by the way, you should reconsider and turn the other cheek and allow others their view weather you agree or not. I would have thought an intelligent educated person like yourself would resort to a higher level of discoarse. As I work on my personal developement I’ll try and stay in touch for your assessment on my progress. I have so much to learn. Try to be patient this knuckle dragger needs time.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Tue, February 07, 2006 at 12:02:32 PM
  93. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    you’re a glutton for punishment, dacre.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Tue, February 07, 2006 at 12:37:51 PM
  94. Dacre says:

    What gluttony? What punishment?

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Tue, February 07, 2006 at 1:33:08 PM
  95. derekb says:

    Dacre—“knuckle dragger”? Why are you so hard on yourself? Or were you offering an explanation (damaged digits, missing fingernails, etc?) for your difficulty locating the question mark?

    As for giving you time: take all the time you want. You’re among friends here. You may be a sandwich or two short of the proverbial picnic, but I’m sure there are ways that your anger can be appropriately channelled.

    As I said, keep us updated, pour encourager les autres, if for no other reason.

    Posted by derekb  from  UK  on  Wed, February 08, 2006 at 9:49:30 AM
  96. Dacre says:

    derekb, I’m afraid you’ve blown way over my head again. Before,you made a statement about me mentioning pornography when I did not and now you mention question marks. I’m not sure where I missed one but no doubt you can and have an explanation as to the psychological reasons for it. Again another shortcoming. You’ll have to explain how I’m angry as I’m too thick to notice it. I’m sure a good Labour Party bloak like yourself has all the answers. I’ve yet to meet anyone from overome that wasn’t always right and didn’t know everything. Are you visiting or are you a citizen? And hey, I’ll try to work on my typing skills but back when I went to school only females and poofters took typing. This steno work is really quite new to me and I’m always learning. Unlike yourself, I’m at an age where I no longer know everything. Have you anything else to fabricate? Just let me know.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Wed, February 08, 2006 at 12:14:08 PM
  97. derekb says:

    Dacre, Dacre, Dacre, *sigh*

    Just when we seemed to be getting somewhere, you get all defensive and start striking out again.

    Don’t worry about the typing. It isn’t easy for everyone.

    Regarding my citizenship, of course I’m a Canadian; and no, I’m not Labour. You’ll be amazed to learn that there are Canadians living all over the world.

    I find it difficult to answer this one, as I simply don’t understand one key word (“overome”): 

    I’ve yet to meet anyone from overome that wasn’t always right and didn’t know everything.

    I’m guessing that you mean “overseas”, is that right? Or is “overome” a specific location overlooking the Italian capital? Or perhaps a neologism coined by the far-right in Canada?

    In any case, I can only despair at the representative of our country (you) that these visitors met when in Canada. Did they seem a bit frightened, by any chance?

    Posted by derekb  from  Overome  on  Wed, February 08, 2006 at 11:36:22 PM
  98. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    derekb, that’s enough thanks.  This site isn’t your personal playground and I’m bored with your jejune little quips.

    Don’t feel it’s incumbent upon you to now answer this with yet another snarky little comment.

    Thank you kindly.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Thu, February 09, 2006 at 8:18:07 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  99. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    derekb is a lilberal, and liberals MUST get the last word.  It’s what they’re used to.

    So of course derekb HAD to take one more swipe, despite my asking him to stop. 

    Yes, derekb, it is my personal playground.  Full stop. 

    Cheers.  Enjoy the Kool-Aid.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Thu, February 09, 2006 at 10:06:19 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

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