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A conservative OPINION blog --with bite. OPINION by Joel Johannesen.

Friday, February 03, 2006

Depraved programming accessible to our nation’s kids; brought to you by…

Written by Joel Johannesen on Friday February 03 2006 at 10:20 AM

When you have satellite TV and an internet connection, the sky’s the limit on the amount of depraved, lewd, grotesque, and pornographic material you can get your hands on. 

It’s not television and internet material that is produced by good conservative Canadians, I’m quite sure of that. 

Some of the material at this site “Nerve” seems to promote a really depraved lifestyle—getting meat hooks installed in your back as a better form of piercing than, say, what the state-run CBC’s George Stroumboulopoulos has all over his face every day at 5:00 in the evening on the state-run news channel called CBC Newsworld.  All those piercings are just boring compared to this. 

Other material here simply promotes a gay lifestyle and gay marriage and includes flicks about being transsexual, for example.  Some flicks shown here demonstrate various forms of just bizarre behavior, and manifestly attempts, it seems to me,  to “normalize” all these things—you know, the way liberals try to normalize lots of their behavior and lifestyle choices and what they call “values”.  You’ll remember Liberal Prime Minister Paul Martin constantly lecturing us about “Canadian values” and what they are.

I was surprised that this web site was actually part of the liberals’ prized CBC which we all pay for.  It and all its contents (sampled below) was bought and paid for and presented by—not some perverted, depraved socialist, and not some adult-only pay-per-view business—but by YOU.  Yes, you.  Pat yourself on the back. 

The state-run CBC presents these videos—taken from their TV show, shown free of charge to our kids.  It is in fact a whole program designed to appeal to our nations’ teens, specifically. 

Here are some of the flicks at the state-run CBC web site.  Did you know you bought this and that this is what our CBC is up to? 

NOTE:  Click the links to see the whole flicks at the CBC.  In case they take them down, I’ve got copies of them.  Also, you’ll need the free Quicktime player installed on your computer to view them.   



Ball Waxer

Young teen boy goes to a waxing parlour to get his balls waxed.  CBC camera man follows boy into parlour where the waxer asks him how often he shaves his balls.  He answers, “I guess I shave my balls about once a week…”. 

He’s then asked to drops his pants, and he lies on the “operating” table.  All of this is captured by the astute CBC cameraman who is employed by the state with your tax dollars.

The waxer then proceeds to wax his balls while the CBC camera films the event for the youth of our country at taxpayers’ expense.

They hope you and your children learn some of those liberal “Canadian values” from this. 




Same Sex Wedding

Shows a very sympathetic review of a gay “marriage”, from just prior to the big wedding between two very, very young men, through to the end when the presiding civil servant (?) pronounces that by the “power vested in me” they are “married”.  He then suggests they “may greet each other with a kiss”. 

Which of course they do. 

There’s lots of man-on-man kissing of course. 

Repeats the words “we’re happy” several times. 



Body Modification

Shows a tattooed young man who goes to a skanky body-piercing parlour, and gets his back pierced—with giant meat hooks.  Then the CBC shows that man being hung like meat—from his new meat hooks which are pierced into his back—and swinging back and forth from those meat hooks, in a public bar of some kind. 

The CBC thought this was good stuff to help normalize our youth to the values of getting giant meat hooks installed into your kids’ backs, then of course hanging like meat in rave bars.  Simple piercings in the eye-lids, nose, lips, tongue, nipples, and sex organs…. are simply passeé now.  The CBC news host George Stroumboulopoulos with all his face piercings is “lame” now by comparison. 

Good values. 

Liberal values.




Graffiti

It’s manifestly about what makes graffiti fun. 

Of course they glamorize it by making out like the vandals are actually earnest artists—you know, in that socialist hippy kind of way, and the overriding idea being promoted here with the sympathetic music in the background is that these vandals are actually doing our community a service.  The video is complete with the words “sh**” and “shi**y”. 

They never show the faces of the young vandals while they vandalize our community, because the activity they’re being filmed doing is entirely illegal.  The CBC protected the vandals by hiding their identity.  CBC paid for it.  You paid for it.  Illegal activity.  In Canada.




Dog balls

Shows a zoomed-in clip of a dog’s balls.  Then the dog urinates against a fence, and that’s pretty much it. 

The CBC cameraman is sure to zoom in very closely on the well-clipped dog’s testicles—the dog being a poodle-mix if I’m not mistaken. 

I wonder if they will show an extreme close-up of a female dog’s vagina in an upcoming clip.  Then maybe move right onto humans.  Why the heck not?  We’re the “extreme” ones—not them.  Am I right Toronto Star readers and columnist?

This is what the state-run media thought Canadians should spend their money on this day. 

Hope you liked it. 

I’m sure some perverts did. 




Fuzzy Mike

This flick is an excellent example for our youth.  It shows an early-teens girl wearing excessive makeup who’s clearly completely strung out on drugs, it seems to me, and between wild parties—perhaps at spring break.  She stupors along and spots the CBC microphone, and fantasizes about how it could “tickle” her.  Because it’s fuzzy.  And I guess the phallic shape has something to do with it. 

I’m quite sure the words they inexplicably didn’t include were references to exactly where and how it could tickle her.  But you know, the CBC’s motto is “We report—you decide”. 

So they left it at that. 


Peaches

A mid-teens girl who appears to me to be completely strung out on drugs talks about people who are all, you know, like “judgmental” and stuff.  Like yuck. 

She says that judgmental people should “take that pickle right out of your ass”.

She then demonstrates how exactly that might actually look, if they were to pull a pickle out of their ass, as she turns around, and the CBC cameraman zooms in her said “ass” and the demonstration occurs.

She pushes a pencil through the front of her jeans and pulls it out the back, as if to portray a pickle being extracted from her ass.



Naked Guy

A young mid-teens boy in a nearly full public parking lot—with people present—screeches like Howard Dean to the CBC camera, yelling that he doesn’t “believe in clothes”. 

He then turns and takes his clothes off, cameras rolling.  The kid takes all his clothes off.  All of them.  Cameras rolling. 

The CBC camera follows him running around the parking lot completely naked, often zoomed-in on his butt.

This, the liberals do not consider to be kiddy porn.  It’s just normal to them.  This is what they call “Canadian values”.  Vote liberal.

The state-run CBC’s mandate apparently allows for this, and the CBC’s liberal-left ass bureaucrats apparently thought you needed to pay for this, and for our kids to see this. 



Rap it Up

A CBC cameraman films as a black youth starts to “gangsta rap” a song, when inexplicably, the CBC cameraman—or someone off camera in any case—yells “Yo shi*, man, something just bit my fu**ing hand, dude.” 

Of course the CBC caught the whole words—I didn’t like using them here. 

The youth star doubles over in laughter. 

Off-camera person repeats same line.  The camera zooms in on said hand, and he says again—“something’s biting my fu**ing hand”. 

That’s it.

Hope you liked it. 

You paid for it.



I Am Canadian

This one features a young adult who left the U.S.A., which they leave no doubt he absolutely thinks sucks (the U.S.A., that is).  He of course now lives in Canada, which surprise surprise, he loves immensely by comparison to that awful America. 

American money stinks, he says.

He explains why he moved to Canada, eventually getting to the real zinger—the whole point—saying this illustrious comment: 

“George Bush?  He’s a monkey.”



Boner Phobia

This is a cartoon about an obviously very young male character who gets an erection in school class.  The female characters laugh at him. 

The teacher in the classroom asks him to write something on the chalk board—but of course he has an erection. 

He does as he’s told.

That’s about it.

I can’t for the life of me understand why I paid for this. 

But we all did.

Hope you like it.




The “Nerve” show was apparently yanked, as I can’t find it on the schedule any longer.  It was broadcast to the kids at 5:30 Mondays—ensuring that both teens and even the young toddlers could view it.  That 5:30 time slot on Mondays now appears to be filled by re-runs of Frasier —you know, the comparatively lily-white American show.  However the Nerve web site (http://www.cbc.ca/nerve/) is still active and accepts subscriptions for their newsletter.  I signed up naturally. 


The state’s official television critic, Stephen Cole, wrote this about Nerve, on the state-run people’s web site, CBC.ca:
(at http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/nerve.html )

[...] There are probably parents and educators who wish that Nerve would stick to more traditional, obviously nutritional, kids programming — something like Reach for the Top, the legendary high-school quiz show that ran for nearly 20 years and appeared in almost precisely the same time slot as Nerve.

I would remind them that CBC finally cancelled Reach when audience research indicated the program wasn’t reaching its intended demographic, and that 57 per cent of the audience was 55 years of age and older. Nerve successfully reinvents the kids show by abandoning the instructional pose adopted by so many previous teen series. The show feels more like a visit from a friend than a meeting with an after-school tutor. [...]

Stephen Harper was one of those suckhole brainiacs on that wholesome, boring old Reach for the Top show, back in the boring old stupid days.  Things have “progressed” nicely, haven’t they? 

Posted by Joel Johannesen on   Fri, February 03, 2006 at 10:20:00 AM
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  1. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Considering I paid for this CRAP,
    I want my money back ASAP, with interest.

    At first, I thought you had put up some obscure porn site, but when I realized WHERE it was coming from, I am totally, completely unashamedly DISGUSTED beyond belief that a state run, taxpayer funded television station could put this porn/crap/garbage on the air & market it to teenagers & younger kids.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 1:17:49 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  2. EazyE says:

    This is disgusting. No matter your take on politics, you should have some sense of decency for children. Only a fool would think this is good for people under the age of 13 to view. Probably the same fool that thinks religion is disgraceful and should be censored. What a depraved society.

    Posted by EazyE  from  Kitchener, ON  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 1:22:21 PM
  3. Exile says:

    THIS is the CBC? This is what wacked out civil servants think is good to show my children?  This is liberal tolerance, inclusiveness and openess? 

    Bloody sickening.

    Let’s gather up the Liberal elite’s children and the CBC upper management’s children and show THEM this vile collection of vomit.  Maybe, just maybe, these snotty “elites” will get it? 

    Nah, wishfull thinking.

    Posted by Exile  from  Warawa Country!  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 1:26:35 PM
  4. EazyE says:

    We should really take action against this. The CBC is obviously sidestepping it’s own CRTC censorship. The CRTC should be scrapped altogether.

    Posted by EazyE  from  Kitchener, ON  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 1:29:36 PM
  5. james says:

    I like the key words of “Propaganda John” there, “My debts whiped clean” “George Bush is a Monkey” (Even though he’s been here since 96)and the most obscure reason to hate the US, smelly money…. I didn’t see a monocle and a top hat, so I’m guessing he’s not a millionare here either.

    The US is better off without “Propaganda John” anyway.

    Posted by james  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 1:39:51 PM
  6. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Any offended people should research the CBC’s mandate, and programming guidelines and then email the Ombudsman with a complaint. I’m going to. He will have to investigate if he gets enough complaints. 
    Is cbcwatch.ca covering this as well?

    EasyE - Under 13? I don’t think this type of stuff should be marketed to anyone under 17 or 18, especially by what is a crown corporation.

    Great work Joel!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  PEI  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 1:47:24 PM
  7. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    These pages should be presented at the next available hearing addressing the value of the CBC. I want my money back, too. I actually don’t care what private broadcasters broadcast (within reason), but why am I struggling to support my family when my tax dollars are spent making this CRAP? I can just imagine a state-supported university professor explaining how state-supported visions of ball-waxing actually contribute to the betterment of society. Wax your balls on tv for Canada! We couldn’t be more proud!

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 1:50:24 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  8. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Unbelievable!

    Joel, you are the best.  Never knew this junk existed.

    Not only is 5:30pm when the kids are at home, but it is also when a lot a parents aren’t home yet from work to monitor what they are watching.

    Believe me, this time slot is no accident.

    There is something evil going on in Liberaldom.

    It’ll take the Conservatives years to begin the process of undoing this downward spiral of our nation’s morals.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Guelph, Ontario  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 2:18:52 PM
  9. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Now I know why they call the site ‘Nerve’; they must have an awful lot of it.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 2:27:33 PM
  10. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Please, PLEASE, send a carbon copy to your local MP.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 2:31:12 PM
  11. carlnorman says:

    Please someone tell me why we put up with this unbelievable assult on our minds and our hard earned dough?

    If we all send a copy of this to Stephen Harper, maybe we can get it shut down?  I was meaning the CBC, but at least the Nerve website.

    Can we get something together and organize a campaign?

    Posted by carlnorman  from  Edmonton, AB.  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 2:43:35 PM
  12. hemostat78 says:

    I want the CBC off the dole!

    Posted by hemostat78  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 2:53:44 PM
  13. Exile says:

    And yet the CBC has the nerve to be squemish about Howie Stern?

    Globe and Mail

    Posted by Exile  from  Warawa Country!  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 3:12:58 PM
  14. Dacre says:

    Oh come on now. You know what kids are like. They need some racey entertainment. How else will they get educated in a progressive manner that distinquishes us from other knuckle dragging countries (USA). In liberal Canada this is the future, just think of it. Legal sex clubs, brothels, polygamy, SSM, legal weed, gambling, just don’t get caught going to Church where there is all of that hate speech and don’t get caught with a cigarette. Let the kids have all of this diverse culture at their fingertips because hey, their gonna do it anyway. A great example Joel of Paul Martins Canada courtesy of who else but the Canadian taxpayer.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 3:32:01 PM
  15. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Joel..another spectacular piece of investigative journalism!  This expose is just another day in the park here in Vancouver aka Sodomy..multiply the above “devils work” by infinity and what do you have..Vancouver. 

    Scratch the surface of fantasmorgasmic freaky Vancouver and you have Hell aka “The CBC.”  Where would the devil hide?  Hmm..how about the city with no limits..the Olympic city..the city that the ultra left/special interest groups say is the “the best city in the world!”  Hmm, well if the shoe fits where it.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodomyland & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 3:34:58 PM
  16. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Hi Joel!  Why do you single out the rapper as a “black youth” but call all the whites: young boy/girl, young teens, midteens, young midteens etc.  Is that just a mistake in your writing?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 4:33:23 PM
  17. Dacre says:

    PC alert, PC alert. You really have to watch what you say and how you say it. Did I hear PC alert?

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 4:50:58 PM
  18. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Send the cbc to progressive CUBA or Syria. They hate jews and Americans their too.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 4:58:07 PM
  19. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    At my age, I would love to be called a “youth” of any colour. ;)

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 4:58:35 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  20. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Political correctness was invented by subversive communists.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:00:20 PM
  21. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    For sure! racism is politically incorrect.  But I don’t think Joel is racist in intent, he’s more likely just afraid of things foriegn to him.  Take the girl with “too much makeup” for example… when a women acts ‘out of line’ he call her a whore who wants to be penetrated by a microphone!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:01:41 PM
  22. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Some of us have understood for some time now that this type of content exists just below the surface on some networks , or on some ‘speciality’ channels that we’re all forced to pay for through our local cable ‘packages’.

    The worst of it is that most people have no idea this stuff is available , especially older people , and they are certainly outraged when they see it.

    What will it take to make ‘normal’ Canadians aware of this crap , and to get them involved ??  That’s the challenge.

    How can we expose this stuff ?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:05:08 PM
  23. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    On this PC tangent for a minute. I once knew a PC PETA youth in university who was so PC he couldn’t find anything to eat in the variety store. This product exploited that group or this animal or whatever. Concerned for his physical (and honestly, mental) health, I suggested some honey. What is more innocent than honey? The sincere PC youth informed me that he could not partake of honey. Why not? Because HONEY EXPLOITS BEES! I was really unable to take him or the whole PC movement seriously ever again.

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:08:09 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  24. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Aha its been tried.  This stuff is just a toned down MTV “Jackass.” (Google it). I believe CBC was trying to mimic that US program, probabaly to boost ratings.  Its kind of funny, but leftists hold the same opinion then you—but they believe this kind of garbage is getting on TV due to increased commercialisation -following the Ad revenue instead of what is benifitial to society.  Do you see how you are holding two contradictory opinions at once?  CBC is responsible to the free market, and will be more so under the Conservatives.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:13:00 PM
  25. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    That was in response to Kim.  I ment to write “same opinion as you”

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:15:14 PM
  26. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    Right handsome—but we don’t want to PAY for this crap via taxes. It is a whole other matter to find crap in the market place. I just don’t want to pay for ball-waxing videos while our soldiers are endangered every time they get in a helicopter.

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:16:03 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  27. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    The thing is.. we are not paying for that. Unfortunatly garbage is the stuff that brings in the revenue.  Perhaps it is a sad reflection on our society, and you can blame it on whoever you’d like, but making the media market more free (IE further cuts to the CBC/CRTC) is NOT going to fix the problem.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:20:26 PM
  28. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    Why is handsome, hansome and Handsome writing with three different spellings of his/her name? Are you three people? Just curious.

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:26:11 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  29. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    nope, just multiple personalities (:

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:28:53 PM
  30. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Handsome :

    Let me articulate.

    I do not hold contradicory opinions when it comes to this trash.

    My opinion is : (1)I have to fund this CBC programming through my taxation obligations to CCRA. (2) I have to fund this crap when I purchase and pay for an 8 channel cable ‘package’ when I am only interested in viewing 2 of those 8 channels. Let me give you an example of how both worlds meet. When you purchase a cable package that contains the ‘SHOWCASE’ channel , you are including a show entitled KINK. At the end of the KINK show , in the credits , you will see that the funding for this perverted garbage is brought to you by the government of Canada.

    To wit : I pay for my trash on the CBC through my taxes , and I pay for my trash in the cable ‘package’ via a monthly charge AND via ‘The Govt. of Canada’ sponsorship of these ‘speciality’ channels.

    It pisses me off. No contridiction here because I am a parent.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:30:36 PM
  31. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    The CBC, once again has given there best Frat Boy interpolation of Mr Martin’s “progressive” Canadian values!!!.It must make the crew at “Rabble” proud to see our tax dollars co-opted to produce this unmitigated pile of crap.This is just one more example as to why the Pravda of the north {CBC}should be made to survive on it’s own, unincumbered by little things such as unlimited public funding.I hope and pray that our new Conservitive saviors cut the funding for all of these “socially progressive” leachs and let them raise the capital for their spurious programs from there own base of “comrades”.Hell hath no fury compared to a “Progressive” without public tax dollars!!!!.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  center of fiberal malice {toronto}  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 5:36:44 PM
  32. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    handsome (re #16) yeah you’re right.  I’m a racist.  My sister was born in the Congo.  That’s in Africa.  I hate her.  I hate our columnists too.  At least the black ones.

    Then in #22 you said:

    ...he’s more likely just afraid of things foriegn to him. 

    Yeah, see, I’m not familiar with my sister, see.  But I hope when I turn 14 and learn about the world, I’ll see things clear like you.

    Then you said also in #22:

    Take the girl with “too much makeup” for example… when a women acts ‘out of line’ he call her a whore who wants to be penetrated by a microphone!

    My sister wore too much makeup too, when she was that girl’s age.  I think my mom does too. 

    I never called them a “whore”,  either. I’m constistent.

    And by the way, I believe the insinuation by the CBC’s flick was that the girl would like to be tickled by the microphone—not “penetrated”.  In fact that’s what she said.  “Tickle”.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 6:08:10 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  33. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I’m glad you view different people in an equal light!  The young woman with makeup was talking about tickling with the mic.  I was responding to your commentary.. IE

    I guess the phallic shape has something to do with it.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 6:22:57 PM
  34. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    And of course, congrats on the popular website!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 6:24:27 PM
  35. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Oh, Joel I just realised you misquoted my comment on #22.  A proper quote would be:

    I don’t think Joel is racist in intent, he’s more likely just afraid of things foriegn to him.  Take the girl with “too much makeup” for example…

    What I was saying there is that maybe if you got to know people from different walks of life, perhaps you would find out they are not so bad!  Although your opinion on makeup may stay the same! (:

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 6:32:41 PM
  36. funkmeister says:

    PBS’s show “Merchants of Cool” does a really good job of introducing the people and motives behind these kind of shows.

    Being PBS, it does not delve into morality, but spends a lot of time covering the main motivation which is to get kids to spend more money.

    Basically, most marketing groups that target youth know that sexually active youth spend more money. The youth feel that they need to be “cool” so that they are more sexually attractive.

    Besides sex, boys also like violence.

    So if they make shows that glorify sex, violence and anti-social behavior, they will make more money because of increased add revenues. They also socialize the youth into a lifestyle that causes them to spend more money.

    So it disgusting that our tax dollars pay for this, but keep in mind also, that companies who advertise are more than happy to pay for adds that run during these shows.

    So if you really want to put it stop to this, pressure also needs to be asserted on the companies who are more than happy to advertise during these shows and profit from our moral decline.

    Posted by funkmeister  from  Calgary  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 6:46:53 PM
    — funkmeister's   s i g n a t u r e:

    The Funk-Meister

  37. EazyE says:

    Handsome, unfortunately you have fallen into a common PC trap. Most of us here have met many people from many parts of the planet. Take Joel for instance… you think he lives in Vancouver and hasn’t met any females, visible minorities, or gender confused denizens?

    Also, following your logic, would living with tribal Indonesians benefit you more than learning about a productive culture like the West? Because after all… it’s not about race, it’s about culture. And the West is the undesputed champion of productivity and advancement.

    Posted by EazyE  from  Kitchener, ON  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 6:56:06 PM
  38. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    I find it very telling that handsome (whatever spelling) can’t find any good defense for the indefensible (the state-run CBC), so he chooses instead the last vestige of a losing debater —he attacks the messenger. 

    His attack is lame, and inane, but the fact remains—he’s not defending the CBC, he’s attacking me for saying something about it.  Taking the aggressive stance because there simply is no defence available.

    And think about it:  by pin-pointing the fact that I called that young black boy a “black boy”, he drew from that (somehow, magically) that I am therefore a racist —or at least he saw fit to take the time and trouble to post a comment here to draw attention to it.  So I assume that is how he would like you to think—that I just might be a racist. 

    What kind of logic is his?  Laughable.  A fallacy of logic.  And that’s also revealing.

    My mom and dad lived and worked and played in the Congo amongst the black folks there, got married there with a huge wedding that the black folks threw for them in their back yard, and they eventually had my sister there.

    They moved to Canada and soon after, I was born. 

    For the record, my sister was born in Coquiatville, Congo, but she is as white as the driven snow—not that me or my wife or any of our mixed-color family nor any of the good friends we hang out with would give a hoot one way or the other.  Nor would my friends the columnists Peter Gnanapragasam and Anthony Oluwatoyin who are decidedly black. 

    I think the CBC cared about who they chose to depict in that flick, and what they chose him to do, which was to sing a gangsta rap song.  I didn’t do that.  I wouldn’t have even done the flick, in case you didn’t pick up on that.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 6:58:26 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  39. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    RE: handsome;

    Do you really feel that this type of “social comentary” directed towards a youth demeographic{15 years and under}has any place on a network whose original purpose was to provide “News and Information"to a nation that at that time had no national private broadcasters?. What do you feel the role of the CBC should be?.I for one would like to hear your partisan/bias comentary.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  center of fiberal malice {toronto}  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:03:16 PM
  40. Mark-Alan Whittle says:

    Cranked out an official letter of complaint to the CBC Ombudsman and the CRTC. Sickening.

    Posted by Mark-Alan Whittle  from  Hamilton Moutain Electoral District  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:03:59 PM
  41. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    funkmeister —I totally agree.  It’s not just the CBC but the folks who support them. 

    On the “Nerve” web site there is no advertising, not surprisingly. 

    But I really wonder if TV advertisers even know (or knew, whatever the case may be) just exactly where or when on the CBC their ads are being shown.  Certainly they know in the case of big-time shows like hockey and news where they have to pay more, but probably not during the off-prime-time. 

    I really don’t know enough about it to say.  But as a broad general statement, if they’re advertising on the CBC, they’re supporting material like this JUNK.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:04:01 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  42. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    Derek, as I just wrote to you in an email (I’m not sure if your email address as you usually type it here in your dozens and dozens of posts is bogus or not—and that’s why I’m writing this comment), contact me by email and discuss with me why you should be allowed to continue posting in my blog.  In my reply, I’ll explain to you why you were banned, and how that was meant to be a temporary measure. 

    As the resonable guy that you portray yourself to be, I’m so sure you’ll understand it all in a jiff.

    Leave me your phone number and I’ll call you and discuss it over the phone with you.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:19:57 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  43. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Joel:  You are twisting my comments (and yours) to suit an outlandish argument.  I was not defending the CBC… I called the show “garbage.”  I also made it clear that I didn’t think you were racist from the start!

    Terry:  Same to you, I never said the show was social commentary, I said it was garbage.  Big difference there.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:26:56 PM
  44. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    handsome, hansome or Handsome said:

    ...I was not defending the CBC… I called the show “garbage.”

    If you feel so strongly about this, complain to the CBC Ombudsman.  Others have.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:34:27 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  45. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I will if I ever see the show on air.  Joel says it might of been cancelled.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:36:59 PM
  46. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Handsome:  Read the whole blog…..

    ...The “Nerve” show was apparently yanked, as I can’t find it on the schedule any longer.

    ...However the Nerve web site (http://www.cbc.ca/nerve/) is still active and accepts subscriptions for their newsletter.

    See post #40. Someone has complained. Nothing to stop you from complaining.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:41:13 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  47. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Oh I don’t know about that.  I may of complained if I saw the show on my own merit, but now that the show is dying… I guess I’m not a complainer by nature.  I was taught long ago that for every compaint you must bring five compliments… and I just don’t have time for that (:

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:47:02 PM
  48. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I AGREE WITH HAN(d)SOME!

    It said:
    further cuts to the CBC/CRTC) is NOT going to fix the problem.

    This is quite true. 

    Just one big cut of 100% will do it.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:53:36 PM
  49. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    How so?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 7:57:54 PM
  50. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    ...guess I’m not a complainer by nature.

    Then why did you post several times that the show was garbage?

    ...I was taught long ago that for every compaint you must bring five compliments… and I just don’t have time for that…

    but you do have time to come here and complain….We’re still waiting for the five compliments.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 8:02:30 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  51. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Hey, I was also one of those “suckhole brainiacs” on Reach for the Top too… although when I was on the show it wasn’t on CBC, but on the local (London, ON) independent TV channel.  Anyway, I’d much rather have that on CBC than that garbage that is apparently there now, as per your post.  At least that way I’d feel I was getting some value for my share of the $1 billion.  As it is, all I watch on the CBC now is Hockey Night in Canada and other sports… and I figure TSN and Rogers Sportsnet do just as good a job if not better, so why have CBC again?

    Oh well… apparently I don’t have “Canadian Values”(TM) like the Liberals do.  Oh wait, that’s a good thing.  And Harper and the Conservatives are in government now… that’s another good thing.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Mississauga, Ontario  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 8:33:31 PM
  52. MikeR says:

    I swear, being a citizen of this country makes me sick to the stomach sometimes, like right now. Angry and sick at the same time.

    CBC/GOVERNMENT: QUIT STEALING MY GOD**** MONEY TO FUND CRAP LIKE THIS!

    Posted by MikeR  from  Calgary, Alberta  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 9:09:45 PM
  53. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    My goodness..this articel truly brought out the lefties in abundance..it’s nice to just sit back and read/listen for a change..very telling.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 10:29:14 PM
  54. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I have an important question for all Conservatives here.  Have any of you heard or know much about a web site whose total target group are teens of all ages?  I had a group of clients and friends over for dinner earlier this evening for dinner and the following site was spoken of at length..www.nexopia.com.

    According to the “experts” at my table this site is used by literally millions of teenagers almost without exception as a connecting point for drugs, sex and destructive behavior of all kinds.  Two of my guests were health care professionals, one was a secondary public school teacher and another a private school teacher..all four new and were totally convinced that the above site is a melting pot for extremely destructive teen/youth behavior of all kinds.  When everyone at the table finally entered into the conversation..it turns out that those that were parents of teens have also heard of this site and its destructiveness.  So..we called in the real experts..4 teenagers of various ages.  Low and behold..it was true..it was confirmed in no uncertain terms that that site..(as well as several others) is “must have” for “in” teens..especially those “trolling” for drugs, sex and wanton destructive behavior. 

    I must say that I had not heard of said site..but I have taken a look at it with my wife this evening.  Our worst fears were confirmed after investing numerous of the posters “blogs” and reading their posts etc.  What has become of our young people?  I’ll tell you what..a massive part of it is parenting, an complete lack of moral fabric in our society, schools teachers with their own left wing “agendas” as confirmed by numerous friends/clients that are in the system, television..the CBC..Liberal/NDP “Canadian” values…in other words..the “corrupt, hip, cool, elite, grunge, Hollywood, drug, music, its all about me POP CULTURE society!  I’ll ask again..why did Canada’s biggest freak infested toilets not vote one Conservative into office in the last election?  Obviously it is because they follow the “Pop Culture” Commandments..and those have nothing to do with anything resembling “values” unless you consider “ball waxing” a inclusive Canadian value!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Fri, February 03, 2006 at 11:30:52 PM
  55. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    His or her first week in office, the new Minister responsible for the CBC should appoint a receiver for the CBC, who would be empowered to permit spending only for those things that can be found directly in the CBC’s mandate.  Get rid of every member of the CBC Board of Directors who was in office when this aired.  And immediately cut CBC’s overall budget by the amount that was paid out to develop and air this program.

    After yanking it from the web site, and apologizing to all parents.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 1:53:08 AM
  56. ChrisFromVictoriaBC says:

    If they took video of a teenage girl running naked in a parking lot, would that be okay?

    Could they post it on the Internet?

    What would that boy’s mom say? What would Bill Graham say?

    Posted by ChrisFromVictoriaBC  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 3:28:23 AM
  57. ChrisFromVictoriaBC says:

    AFTERTHOUGHT: I already know what Prime Minister-designate Stephen Harper’s opinion would be about that video. The Conservative Party position is very clear.

    As the interim Liberal Party Opposition Leader, I believe that Bill Graham should reveal his position on taxpayer funding of the CBC to post video of a running naked teenage boy on the Internet.

    I assume Mr. Graham would be opposed to this.  Will he take a position and join with Stephen Harper to ask the CBC to remove that video, investigate how it was allowed to happen in the first place, and refer this file to the RCMP?

    Posted by ChrisFromVictoriaBC  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 3:37:20 AM
  58. daverbonz's avatar daverbonz says:

    I am completely fed up with our State Run, publically sponsored CBC network apparent mandate.  It is in serious need of review and significant adjustment if not outright privatization is necessary.  If they want to compete with private broadcasters then let’s level the playing field and quit this typical Canadian reply that they offer services to the entire Canadian mosaic that private broadcasters aren’t willing to.  Bushwaw, that was 40 years ago but typical government whinging they are usually so far behind the curve that some at CBC headquarters probably still think the Beachcombers are cutting edge.  This crap above only nessesitates action to end the insanity.  If they have time and money to be property developers and web developers of services like Joel offered an example above then their time has come to reevaluate their mandate.

    Time to cut the CBC loose from it publically financed Teet and see if it can compete, like it seemingly wants to, in the real world of business and commerce.

    Posted by daverbonz  from  Ottawa, Ontario...Nepean/Carleton  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:46:05 AM
  59. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Re: #57
    Don’t be too sure about that.! Isn’t it Mr.(yech)Graham who likes naked little boys??

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Ontario  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:23:52 AM
  60. Kate says:

    The dog is a Chinese Crested. (A predominantly hairless breed)

    Just linking to your post now.

    Posted by Kate  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:40:39 AM
  61. odie441's avatar odie441 says:

    WOW, a lot of good debate on this one Joel…well done.

    Who is this handsome guy/gal/person? I have not seen his/her posts here before. Maybe he/she is part of the new Liberal offensive. They could not beat us at the ballot box, so they will try to peddle their lame message in the blogshpere. This is what happens when the Liberal Party of Canada runs out of money…ha ha ha!!

    Posted by odie441  from  Ottawa area  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:59:53 AM
    — odie441's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!!

  62. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    Trooper  (#59)—let’s be careful here, please.  I do undertand you’re asking the question and not making a statement, but let’s just not go there, is all I’m saying.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 8:46:58 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  63. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    As usual, I emailed my disgust to the CBC and their ombudsman. Everyone should do the same. Just to remind them that the “centrist”, “tolerant”, “inclusive”, “natural governing party” et al is no longer in power and how this “CHANGE” will affect them. Lol!

    P.S. Hey Joel! I must commend you comrade on your truly fantastic logo for the CBC. Fair and appropriate! I hope you take out a trademark on it before someone else does. You should use it every time you present a post about the CBC.

    Human conditioning works. Just ask any in the leftist media who have “conditioned” the masses for decades making sure as many ignorant, gullible people in this country “understand” that WRONG is RIGHT!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  hamilton, ont.  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 9:40:08 AM
  64. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I’d be interested to know exactly how much you figure these clips cost Canadian taxpayers.  Many of these seem to be random “bloopers” or extra footage from a legitimate story.  I can’t imagine that a CBC cameraman spent more than what would amount to a whole day or two gathering this footage (which is probably roughly $500 to $1500 if you include the salaries of both the cameraman and soundman).  I went to the Nerve site and it seems to me the focus of the show has more depth and journalistic integrety, and is not what these example clips seem to suggest.

    In short, while I applaud much of your politics, I don’t hold any water with CBC bashing—they are a cornerstone of the Canadian identity.  While these clips certainly demonstrate that the CBC could better spend their money, I don’t think they make a good case for *wasting our tax dollars*.  The Gun Registry wastes our tax dollars.  Conversely, the CBC is an essential part of what defines Canada (and remember that the people in these clips are Canadians), and I’d rather see Canada in the raw like it’s being shown here than an American knock-off, like Canadian Idol, any day.

    Remember, tolerance is a Canadian virtue, and being overly concerned about money, like you are in this post (especially to illicit intolerance) makes you sound like a Scrooge.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  swift current, saskatchewan  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 9:49:31 AM
  65. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    This stuff is quite sick….

    I did what I could do, I sent an e-mail to CBC.

    RZ

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Edmonton  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 9:54:34 AM
  66. funkmeister says:

    Wow, I can’t believe the attention this article is attracting; excellent work Joel!

    I find it interesting that there are two threads of discussion: one outraged at the CBC and the other outraged out “moral decay” in our society.

    Some of you may disagree with me, but I believe that at the root of this is out-of-control consumerism. So getting the CBC out of the picture is not gone to stop programming like this.

    Don’t get me wrong - I would be happy to see the CBC disbanded - but that will not stop the moral degradation.

    There are plenty of conservative minded individuals who make a lot of money from the more immoral aspects of consumerism without even being aware of it.

    For example, if any part of your RSP portfolio is vested in companies that make money of products peddled on MTV (or Muchmusic), then through investments you are profiting from the programming.

    I am not trying to bait a flame war here, but it is what I believe. Anyone think I am wrong? (please be nice)

    Posted by funkmeister  from  Calgary  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 9:54:56 AM
    — funkmeister's   s i g n a t u r e:

    The Funk-Meister

  67. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Televised Ball Waxing is a Canadian Value???

    Only in Swift Current, I guess!

    CRB

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Edmonton  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 10:00:02 AM
  68. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    You would think that if the Conservatives were able to put together a presentation (like Joel’s) of all the depravity we the taxpayers fund on CBC, that it would be open and shut as to why the CBC needs a major overhall. Case closed…follow through with reforms, we all save $1 billion dollars a year, Canadians applaud.

    This assumes that the MSM would present the facts as they are, without any left-liberal spin. And that, my small ‘c’ friends, is where the plane gets hijacked.

    I can just hear the elites and chattering classes in this country start to wail… ‘Intolerant’ ‘Censorship’ ‘Bible-thumpers’ ‘Turning back the clock’ ‘Homophobic’ Blah, Blah, Blah…

    The chances of a fair, intelligent debate regarding the future of the CBC are about the same as an intelligent debate on health care, gay marriage, Aboriginal dependency, and abortion…slim and none and slim just left the building.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Prairie Canada  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 10:08:04 AM
  69. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    On a different note. CTV’s new show “The Next Prime Minister” has 4 previous Prime Ministers as the judges. Mulroney and Campbell representing the Conservative side.John Turner and Joe Clark representing the Liberals. No man has ever done more to advance the cause of Liberalism than Joe Who. What an idiot.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sydney  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 10:16:10 AM
  70. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Steve Cameron (#64) said:

    ...I don’t hold any water with CBC bashing—they are a cornerstone of the Canadian identity.  While these clips certainly demonstrate that the CBC could better spend their money, I don’t think they make a good case for *wasting our tax dollars*.

    These clips make a darned good case for wasted tax dollars. IMHO, they border on pornography. Check out the CBC mandate and see what they should be concentrating on.

    From their website:

    CBC Mandate

    The CBC occupies a unique position of trust. Not only is it the most substantial and broadly-based broadcast journalism organization in Canada, it is funded, through Parliament, by the people of Canada. The CBC therefore considers it a duty to provide consistent, high-quality information upon which all citizens may rely.

    So this is “high quality information?
    As taxpayers funding this entity, we have every right to complain loud and long.

    Steve Cameron (#64)also said:

    ...Conversely, the CBC is an essential part of what defines Canada (and remember that the people in these clips are Canadians), and I’d rather see Canada in the raw like it’s being shown here than an American knock-off, like Canadian Idol, any day.

    So you’re saying you’d rather see ball-waxing Canadians that “American Knock-offs?” 

    Bad American knock offs are better than Canadian ball waxers any day of the week.

    We have a right to bash the CBC for this along with their biased reporting. We pay for it.

    They need a good “Reality Check” from the incoming government.  They have strayed from their mandate in so many ways. 

    I’ve said it before and I will say it again - turn them into an “American-style” public broadcasting station with some government funding along with public donations. 

    I guarantee you ball waxing would be replaced with programming that matches their mandate.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 10:40:03 AM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  71. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    RE 64 and 67. You read my mind crb. If ball-waxing is at the cornerstone of Canadian identity, I can only live in shame. For as a woman, I am ball-free. How sad for me. I cannot express my true patriot love like you men can. It’s funny. I arrived in my 30’s without every knowing that ball-waxing on tv for Canada was something so many of you are so proud of! I had no idea this is what Canadians essentially are. Silly, silly me. I have obviously been blinded my my “overconcern with money”. Heck, you are right. Let them spend our money any which way they like. I will go to the plastic surgeon now and see if he can fashion me some patriot-ball implants. And get this—mine will be bigger than yours! ;)

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 10:51:50 AM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  72. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    debsimms said:

    ...I will go to the plastic surgeon now and see if he can fashion me some patriot-ball implants. And get this—mine will be bigger than yours!

    See if they can us gals get a group rate.  grin

    Mind you, with wait times in our hospitals, it may be a while. 

    Maybe this could be next on the list for OHIP to cover.  After all, it’s more important than eye exams or phisiotherapy.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 11:00:20 AM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  73. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    Oh yes, indeedy, conservativegal. We clearly need patriot-balls. I’m going for size XXXXL to match my ego. What about you?

    You know, it strikes me as odd that some folk think Canadian identity is so fragile that the loss of a tv/radio station—even a historically important one—would shatter it. Are those folks that unsure of themselves? How odd. Time to grow up.

    I like your PBS idea.

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 11:05:27 AM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  74. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Deb said:

    I’m going for size XXXXL to match my ego. What about you?

    Oh, yeah, baby!  Bring’em on!! LOL

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 11:25:35 AM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  75. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Hmm..when Pierre Trudeau began the Liberal destruction of Canada with his compassionate society syndrome, did he have any idea that our once great nation would become the freak show it is today? 

    When young people all over Canada scream loudly against anything pro business, old fashioned family values and Conservative ideals..not to mention Christian “values” isn’t that a true indication of how depraved Canadians have become? 

    When we as a society endorse homosexuality of all kinds, SSM, the murder of unborn life for the sake of convenience, bestiality, child sex etc. etc. etc. in the name of the almighty Canadian inclusiveness..what does that say about us?  When drug addicts and illegal immigrants get treated with more respect than our self sacrificing armed forces personal in the name of Liberal compassion..what does that say? 

    It tells me that Canadian society is a utter disgusting failure.  It tells me that I want no part of it!  It tells me that all of the sacrifices my ancestors have made since the early 1800’s here in Canada were a total waste of time.  It also tells anyone with an once of common sense that Canada has to change dramatically!  Enough of the compassionate inclusiveness.  Who could ever be proud of this Canada?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 12:14:42 PM
  76. MikeR says:

    Re #64:

    CBC “a cornerstone of the Canadian identity”.

    “the CBC is an essential part of what defines Canada”

    How lame, steve cameron. You need the CBC to define Canada for you? Get a life.

    Posted by MikeR  from  Calgary, Alberta  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 12:18:51 PM
  77. ChrisFromVictoriaBC says:

    I read that a commentator on Kate’s blog stated that the boy on the CBC.ca/nerve website is 18-years old.

    However, I believe that commentator was referring to “David”, the person in the “Ball Waxer” video, who clearly is labeled as 18.

    Since I have written to the CBC Ombudsman and my local police force on this, it’s an important distinction.

    I am unable to find anything on the website showing the age of the person in the “Naked Guy” video and if you know where that person’s age is disclosed, I would appreciate your pointing it out.

    At best, if the person is 18+, it is in poor taste and I’m not thrilled with having to pay for it. But what else is new? I’m not thrilled with being forced to pay through my taxes for the CBC at the best of times.

    However, as of yet, I haven’t seen anything revealing his age one way or another and before the CBC puts nude young people on the Internet, they should make sure that they indicate the person’s age.

    Posted by ChrisFromVictoriaBC  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 12:43:37 PM
  78. funkmeister says:

    ChrisFromVictoriaBC, i seem to remember in the last election, 2004, that the conservatives got crucified for suggesting that the Liberals indorse child porn. In fact, it was the turning point of the election.

    And yet here we have an example of the CBC producing very questionable material. What a bunch of hypocrites!

    Posted by funkmeister  from  Calgary  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 2:18:59 PM
    — funkmeister's   s i g n a t u r e:

    The Funk-Meister

  79. Dacre says:

    Robert said

    When young people all over Canada scream loudly against anything pro business, old fashioned family values and Conservative ideals..not to mention Christian “values” isn’t that a true indication of how depraved Canadians have become?

      In my mind Robert the idea behind the communist plan of Pierre Trueblew was to deconstruct the Judeo/Christian morals and values that built our country and civilisation and once you achieve that you can replace them with secular humanist/communist ones. The idea being to first erase peoples Christian faith and replace it with man made(state and judges) morals and values. This will be our undoing and lead to our destruction as history has proven in the past. On our current coarse it looks quite clear to me where we’re headed and the CBC gives us even more proof of it.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 2:47:14 PM
  80. funkmeister says:

    You hit on the head there Dacre. That’s why this last election was so brutal. In sense, their pagan/humanistic values and lifestyle are their religion so they will fight very hard to preserve it. We are in for a rough ride.

    Posted by funkmeister  from  Calgary  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 2:59:49 PM
    — funkmeister's   s i g n a t u r e:

    The Funk-Meister

  81. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    I still have family & friends who believe the Liberal “values” crap, thinking I’m the “neo-con” because I actually believe in decency and the concept of traditional values. My bad, according to them.

    They actually thought the “ball waxing” et al videos were OK, as they were aimed at a “younger audience” and if “I didn’t approve”, then ignore them.  The economy’s ok, so nothing else matters.

    Sadly, there’s no getting through to some people, but I gave them (both males) some food for thought, saiying if I was such a “neo-con,” then their so-called values were on par with Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan - minus about 300 pounds and a set of boobs.

    We all agreed to disagree and move on, but my barbs gave them food for thought.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 3:15:04 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  82. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I think the Simpsons can take what was on the CBC and make fun of it and put it to better use.

    Least not forget other CBC “comedians” like Rick Mercer, Sean Cullen (that guy is AWFUL!)and Mary Walsh - all having left wing political hidden agendas during their “comedy routine”.  We pay for them!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Alberta  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 3:50:33 PM
  83. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Just when we’re starting to make progress, it’s pretty sad to see the bandwagon-jumping and divisivenss we can demonstrate on the right!  Just to clarify, I never said I supported anything about this show in particular and even said that that was the wrong kind of programming for the CBC to be showing.

    The biggest problem the right has faced in Canada since Mulrony left office is we are divided.  Even with rampant Liberal corruption, the new Conservative Party won a smaller minority than they had.  The fight is far from over, and there is still a very real chance that the Conservatives can lose the next election.  Prime Minister Harper knows this, and is playing his hand close to the table… he’s a smart man and it wouldn’t be a bad idea to follow his lead.

    As far as wanting to keep the CBC around:  I certainly don’t trust the other major networks to keep their programming smut-free, especially since they get a large part of it from Hollywood.  But the CBC… we can have an impact on their programming—especially programming like this that falls outside their “mandate”—a lot more easily.  Everybody here should send them a note, which you can do here. This is why I’m a supporter of the CBC, because they’re answerable to taxpayers, not to advertisers.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  swift current, saskatchewan  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:13:12 PM
  84. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    Methinks this topic is up past its bedtime. Much as I don’t agree that there is any need to be ‘sad’ about so called ‘band-wagon-jumping’ here on PTBC as Steve Cameron thinks, I do agree with him that while it exists and we pay for it, the CBC could use some guidance from taxpayers.

    So, don’t be sad, Steve. This is where we express ourselves. And as for being divisive, we are all individuals and hold our own disparite views! We have no need to speak as a collective. We aren’t the Borg.

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:23:29 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  85. Dacre says:

    Conservatives are tough bunch to satify and keep in line Steve. I thinks it’s just the nature of conservatives. I just wish we didn’t have so many overly sensitive conservatives in this country. We seem to have large numbers with wobbley knees in the face of adversity and opposition and then we tend to get overly sensitve and want to give up. We in this country better relearn how to buck up and toughen up for what we face in the future. That means we have to learn how to take a punch like a gentleman and allow others to disagree with us without taking it personal. We all need a great deal of personal development in this country. The kind that makes us stronger and more secure in our own skin. We seem to lack that in this country but we can get it back. We’ve been taught and allowed to be pathetic victims for too long now and it’s hurt us many levels.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:33:53 PM
  86. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Actually, it was really the mis-characterisation of me, and the inherent immaturity therein, that I was upset about.  I consider myself to be a God-fearing Christian like many other posters here, and I’m more ashamed of morality of people like MikeR (#52) who don’t like the show, but think nothing of blaspheming, than I am of a show like Nerve, which apparently no one watches anyways.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  swift current, saskatchewan  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:36:02 PM
  87. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Actually , the CBC is a great network. They have excellent equipment , buildings , land , technology , etc.

    The problem with the CBC is that it’s mandate has been breached by political influence.

    The solution would be to purge the whole network of the unprofessional , biased individuals and their way-left-of-centre agenda. Replace them with staff , management , admin. , reporters , camera operators , etc. who will abide by professional ethics and be accountable to an independant committee (which would also be responsible for funding) within the mandate.

    The CBC itself is not the problem ; the people who are current responsible for it’s operations are the problem.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:37:44 PM
  88. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    P.S.  I’m not “sad” debsimms, I thought some of the comments on here were “sad”, as in pathetic.  I have nothing against people expressing themselves, let alone a divergence of opinion, I just find it says something when people have trouble doing it in a dignified way.  That’s why I think people can look up to Stephen Harper, because I think he’s going to do a great job of bringing dignity (and restraint) back to the political discourse.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  swift current, saskatchewan  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:44:13 PM
  89. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    MisterKim:  Hear, hear!  The CBC has been infiltrated by Liberals at the highest level, and they should be flushed out.  Their two-faced behaviour during the lock-out this past summer is a good indication of their corrupted professional ethics.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  swift current, saskatchewan  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:46:40 PM
  90. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    I hear you Steve. And I don’t like cursing and all that myself. But sometimes we like to get a little silly and outrageous. Canada is so politically correct these days that it is refreshing to find a space to get a wee bit dramatic—without offending anyone.

    I completely agree with your assessment of Stephen Harper’s character. And I love him for it. But until I am the PM, I may now and then get a tad racy and ridiculous right here on PTBC. My intention is never to offend. Just exercising my right to be a little bit immature now and then. :)

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 5:51:55 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  91. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Greetings Dacre..it was nice to hear from you again.  Thank you for your always thoughtful and well spoken input.  I posted earlier on this subject

    (#54)

    etc…I was wondering what your opinion was on it.  No one said a word here and I thought it just slipped into the proverbial cracks..and thank you very much for your time Dacre.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 6:58:35 PM
  92. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Oh..and Dacre..one last quick question/note.  You and the rest of the news watching world know of the staggering level of attack against the European newspaper that posted a small cartoon re:bomb-turban Muslim holy leader..etc. etc. and the ensuing race riots and so forth. 

    Well, not to be a dead dog..buttt..what would those same protestors do if a scaled down version of their actual place of worship was buried upside down-by its religious symbol in the ground in the most obvious and expensive piece of downtown real estate in their finest city???? 

    Hmmm, as everyone knows that is exactly what happened here in Vancouver when a Christian church was buried by its cross in Coal Harbor on city land..and then..called art!  Hmm..it would appear that is a-ok to murder, abuse, torture, ridicule Christians and all that is holy to us.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:13:14 PM
  93. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    #84-debsimms said:

    ...So, don’t be sad, Steve. This is where we express ourselves. And as for being divisive, we are all individuals and hold our own disparite views! We have no need to speak as a collective. We aren’t the Borg.

    There are no Borgs in Canada -the only ones in this country who speak the same mantra with a collective voice are Liberals.

    #88-steve cameron said:

    ...I thought some of the comments on here were “sad”, as in pathetic.  I have nothing against people expressing themselves, let alone a divergence of opinion, I just find it says something when people have trouble doing it in a dignified way.

    We are an eclectic bunch here, Steve - we all share our thoughts in different ways on what direction this country has been going in, who’s responsible and how we can help to change it.

    You describe some comments as “sad” and “pathetic” and wish that comments could sometimes be more dignified.

    With some of the issues brought up here (especially this thread), a person’s first impression is sometimes shock, derision and disgust, which can be reflected in their words. 

    We are all different personalities, expressing ourselves in different ways, all with common values, which makes this forum truly unique. 

    Sometimes, dignity needs to be thrown out of the window, an element of humor and sarcasm thrown in, in order to make sense of such lunacy.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:28:15 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  94. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I tried reading all the comments, and gave up: everyone seems to think the show was trash, and probably it was. lucky I don’t really watch tv, but I haven’t seen it or even heard of it. And while I don’t want my taxes to go towards making such crap, my reasons are entirely different: esthetically, I can’t support bad television. it’s like supporting those loud terrible commercials for second-hand car lots.
    But other than the specific content chosen for the sheer “nerve” (but not much else), the IDEA of educating the youth to be tolerant and open-minded does not seem entirely misplaced to me. Moreover, gay marriage (and yes, if two people love each other and want to formalize their union, I deem that as a “marriage”), or even waxing balls, should one wish to go through the pain (which I can’t understand, frankly, but then again it’s not me who’s doing it!) - neither of these offends me. Even the meat hooks, though, those alone out of the bunch seemed like a form of pathology. Why is it hard to accept that not everyone thinks like you? Or feels like you? or lives like you?
    We already have an example of what happens when your worldview narrows so much you can’t see but one thing at a time: you burn flags and boycott Danish Blue because of some cartoon, instead of shrugging it off or even responding in a cartoon of your own.
    Frankly, I rather have a country of legal brothels, weed, and happy gay couples than to be afraid that a careless word out of my mouth will have me gang-raped or stoned to death in the city square.
    (The only thing, is that I would prefer if tax-funded programming would at least raise their tv standards - apperently, they are so bad no one can see the forest with all the croocked trees… hence this entire discussion here.)

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:33:19 PM
  95. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    #94 - conservativegal said:

    Sometimes, dignity needs to be thrown out of the window, an element of humor and sarcasm thrown in, in order to make sense of such lunacy.

    If that’s the case, then why are you complaining in the first place?  Isn’t this the very problem with this show?  Humour and sarcasm are fine, but a little decorum too please.  We are supposed to be above slander and insults, not making excuses for them.

    Maybe my feathers are a little ruffled by some of the aspersions cast about me and my hometown by some of the other commenters, but I think I’m making a valid point here.  If you want the right to complain about immoral behaviour, a prerequisite should be that you are above it yourself.  Joel makes a pretty good case here and there’s no need to curse, belittle or otherwise act like a sore winner because we’ve scored a point.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  swift current, saskatchewan  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:57:46 PM
  96. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    (sorry, that should say *93* not 94 at the top)

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  swift current, saskatchewan  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 7:59:35 PM
  97. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Steve: go back and re read post #93 again. I was not talking about “the show” itself, but the reactions of posters to the show. 

    There is a difference.  Sometimes, you have to use humor to express your dissatisfaction about something. 

    Read the editorial page of any newspapers - that’s the purpose of political cartoons.

    I’ve stated my opinion about the show and the fact it was paid for by taxpayers - see post #1.

    I’ve also responded to you re the CBC in post #70.  You seem to go between defending and vilifying both the CBC and the videos themselves.

    If you want the right to complain about immoral behaviour, a prerequisite should be that you are above it yourself.

    That’s a pretty loaded statement, steve. No person , including you, is above anyone or anything and in making that statement, you are saying that no one has the right to complain unless they are perfect,flawless or faultless.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 8:22:02 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  98. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    In my opinion, the dog video is not freedom expression, but is a cruel and exploitive act to a defenseless animal.  I’m wondering if the individuals responsible for this video could be charged under animal cruelty legislation?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 8:23:06 PM
  99. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    94, Nika… you said:

    Why is it hard to accept that not everyone thinks like you? Or feels like you? or lives like you?

    Are you saying that hard working taxpayers who simply have an opinion on how their tax dollars are being spent are somehow not free to express that opinion?

    You don’t have to tell anyone in Canada that there are people ‘who don’t think like you’ and ‘who don’t live like you’. We live and breath, and I think we all get that.

    What we need more of in this country is good people pointing out when something is depraved, nutty, sick, stupid, weak, ridiculous, self-destructive and just plain sad.

    And standing up for what is right and good has absolutely nothing to do with accepting that other people don’t live like us. WE JUST DON’T WANT TO BE FORCED TO PAY FOR IT.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Prairie Canada  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 8:38:15 PM
  100. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    More wisdom from Nika:

    But other than the specific content chosen for the sheer “nerve” (but not much else), the IDEA of educating the youth to be tolerant and open-minded does not seem entirely misplaced to me.

    or even waxing balls, should one wish to go through the pain (which I can’t understand, frankly, but then again it’s not me who’s doing it!) - neither of these offends me.

    So is tolerence and open-mindedness of any and every behaviour a good thing? If so, you’re dreaming of a world of total chaos and despair.

    Yes, lets all join hands and tolerate sodomy, SSM, polygamy, sex with children, incest, public defication, body mutilation, S&M, rape, and muscrat love. What a beautiful, tolerant world that would be for our children.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Prairie Canada  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 8:56:14 PM
  101. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I’d like to see CBC’s head cheese Robert Rabinovitch get immediately summoned to the office of the next Minister of Heritage, or whoever will be responsible for the CBC after Feb. 6 to, explain how this show fulfills CBC’s mandate.

    Shortly thereafter, Rabinovitch should present a complete program review with a detailed cost breakdown justifying the $1 billion per year of taxpayer’s money the CBC spends, with a view of reducing costs by 20% annually until they are at least 80% self-funded.

    That they have money to blow ono this type of pornography shows that they are bloated and directionless.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Ottawa  on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 9:32:55 PM
  102. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    good luck with that. Leading contender for culture (scroll down)

    She also argued at the time that ...renewed extra-budgetary allocation of $60 million for the CBC should also become permanent.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 10:51:41 PM
  103. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    And just to add on to that, the Conservative party has taken the position that the CBC should be more responsive to ratings, and attempt to increase its viewership.  Only the leftists seem to care about the content, quality, and benifit to society!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sat, February 04, 2006 at 10:58:37 PM
  104. Pissedoff says:

    Well if Harper’s first priority isn’t to pull all funding to the CBC and all of the frequencies. Then fire all of the CRTC clowns, the next time I might vote Liberal, after all if I have to pay for this CRAP I might as well support it. My riding was Boudria’s and we finally got a real politician, I hope.

    I could of course just cut up my citizen card and passport.

    Posted by Pissedoff  from   on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 7:48:32 AM
  105. EazyE says:

    And just to add on to that, the Conservative party has taken the position that the CBC should be more responsive to ratings, and attempt to increase its viewership.  Only the leftists seem to care about the content, quality, and benifit to society!

    The content of the CBC is socialism. The quality of the CBC is based on it’s mediocre liberal talking points and amateurish, highly biased documentaries. The benefit to society is the liberal elitests get to feel warm fuzzies after hearing how they are right to hate conservatives.

    Conservatives would like to see more honest reporting and a programming that people are more interested in, instead of marginalizing the population by attracting only the most acquiesced socialists. Hockey Night in Canada is all I watch on CBC… and that is the same for far too many Canadians who have turned their backs on the network.

    Posted by EazyE  from  Kitchener, ON  on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 8:04:22 AM
  106. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    #3 -hansome said

    And just to add on to that, the Conservative party has taken the position that the CBC should be more responsive to ratings, and attempt to increase its viewership.  Only the leftists seem to care about the content, quality, and benifit to society!

    I really don’t know what parallel universe you live in, but maybe a new prescription for rose coloured glasses would be in order.

    The Conservatives (on or about page 18 in their policy book) want to maintain the CBC as laid out in their mandate.  I didn’t see ball waxing or boner phobia mentioned in there as part of the mandate.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 3:19:37 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  107. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Conservativegal :

    You mean boner-phobia , ball-waxing , hooking (hanging from meat hooks ) are not contained in the CBC’ mandate under ‘Miscellaneous Items’ ??  cheese

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 4:01:33 PM
  108. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Once again, Mister Kim:

    That’s part of the “hidden agenda.”  LOL  tongue laugh cool grin

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 4:40:46 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  109. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I’m looking forward to Stephen Harper & crew finding the $40-$50 million dollar ‘hidden agenda’ of the disgraced Liberal Party of Canada.  grin

    That should make my year.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 5:15:14 PM
  110. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    So many reactions to the garbage that is paid for by our taxes. Please please remember: We have a new government who is more likely to listen to their constituents on the issues. If you have a Conservative MP get as much info to him as possible. I plan to be very ‘informative’ (read ‘irritating ’ )to the local MP…a Liberal incumbent. How many of them know about this?? Let’s go!!VF

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 6:15:03 PM
  111. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    It will make up for having to pay David Dingbat his “entitlements.”

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, February 05, 2006 at 6:15:41 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  112. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    This all makes me very heavy hearted.  For me, my children, and the country.  To think that our younger generation has to go to such extremes to “feel”.  Then the older generation gives them affirmation in it by exploiting it.  Then the government supports is with money and laws.  There is no “freedom” in humanism, it is the very thing that is killing out land.  We are spitiual beings, we need to live as such.  Having Christian values and respecting that is freedom.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 7:20:34 AM
  113. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Here’s a simple solution : TURN OFF THE TV! I’m quite certain that a responsible parent would decide for themself whether or not they want their children viewing this type of program.  It is not the CBC’s nor is it the government’s fault that conservative children are ALLOWED to watch programs of this nature.( I say this because I am under the impression that the majority of these comments come from right wing individuals )  It’s that easy ... it might cut into your “personal” time ... but shutting the tv off and ACTUALLY SPENDING TIME WITH YOUR CHILDREN would probably do a whole lot more for their development than complaining excessively to have a program removed.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 12:36:18 PM
  114. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Sheena ,

    That has to be the dumbest post I’ve read on this site since I began posting here.

    How many kids do you have ?

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 1:03:34 PM
  115. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    #13-Sheena said:

    It is not the CBC’s nor is it the government’s fault that conservative children are ALLOWED to watch programs of this nature.

    HUH? So, let me get this straight -  the CBC puts on this garbage, paid for by us and then expects no one to watch it…and then when somebody does watch it, it is not their fault if someone watches it and is offended? 

    Then, if the show is offensive (as this one is) we’re not supposed to complain about it but spend more time with our kids instead….

    (Shaking of head trying to understand the logic of this post…..)

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 3:23:46 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  116. Dacre says:

    No kidding Conservative Gal. Sheena was just a little out to lunch on the concept me thinks.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 3:36:24 PM
  117. Dacre says:

    Congratulations Joel. I see you’ve made lifesitenews.com again. The article relates to this thread.

    Canada Public Broadcaster Caught Airing Perverse Teen Sex Episodes
    Teens specifically targeted for extreme sexual liberalization by program

    By Terry Vanderheyden and John-Henry Westen

    OTTAWA, February 6, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – “Naked Guy,” “Dog Balls,” and “Ball Waxing,” are archived sample clips of sexual programming available from Canada’s publicly-funded broadcaster, the CBC. 

    A CBC television program called Nerve, which formerly aired after school at 5:30pm Mondays, is described by blogger Joel Johannesen as

    I’m sure I’ve seen you mentioned on Life Site before haven’t I?

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 3:48:34 PM
  118. Dacre says:

    Joel congratulations. I see you’ve made lifesitenews.com.

    Canada Public Broadcaster Caught Airing Perverse Teen Sex Episodes
    Teens specifically targeted for extreme sexual liberalization by program

    By Terry Vanderheyden and John-Henry Westen

    OTTAWA, February 6, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – “Naked Guy,” “Dog Balls,” and “Ball Waxing,” are archived sample clips of sexual programming available from Canada’s publicly-funded broadcaster, the CBC. 

    A CBC television program called Nerve, which formerly aired after school at 5:30pm Mondays, is described by blogger Joel Johannesen

    I don’t think this is the first time either is it? I may have also posted this under another topic. I’ll go and look to see where it went although if it’s posted in 2 different spots I’m sure that’s OK too.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Mon, February 06, 2006 at 3:54:14 PM
  119. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Such broadcasting on NERVE is indicative of how really sick some in our society are. When are we going to take action to ban such insanity from our TV networks? i am definity going to alert our MP to this discusting waste of our money!!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Tue, February 07, 2006 at 1:46:51 PM
  120. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Are we given to understand the CBC’s “Nerve” has been pulled from primetime? How about the website.  These types of episodes embedded in legitimate, informative programming exists solely for the purpose and of PROFITEERING by interested parties in the new job creation program, bawdy houses, orgie houses expanding in city after city, given the go-ahead by the Supreme Court of Canada no less. 

    Question:  What is the fee charged for “ball-waxing?’  The government making fools of the people and their impressionable teenagers.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  london, ontario  on  Wed, February 08, 2006 at 11:36:58 AM
  121. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I cannot BELIEVE this!  I really feel sorry that you wonderful Canadians are being taxed to make this junk.

    Hope CBC gets privatized.  Quick.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sat, February 11, 2006 at 8:36:00 PM
  122. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    STEVE CAMERON? MAKES A GOOD POINT, CONSTRAINT IN PRESENTATION TO GOV’T IS MOST ADVISABLE.

    Our language should be firm, but clean as we reclaim a higher moral ground for our youth. Checking our most appropriate anger and laying out the case very clearly in absolute terms of what the moral majority will not tolerate at the 5 p.m. broadcast hour is a given.

    As Christians, we HAVE TO FORGIVE the former gov’t and CBC executive believing that they ‘really didn’t know what they were doing’. At the same time conveying that as parents, grandparents and future grandparents we intend to support our youth and redirect them toward fulfilling lifestyles and other avenues of leisure pursuits which are of more benefit to the rebuilding of a youth community.
    Another idea, community teenage youth centres built for weekend gatherings for dances, good films, sports, possibly short courses on variety of subjects of interest.  Youth centres WITH CHAPERONS of all things, stipulating the old dress code idea for dances.  There has to be an alternative to the malls and the futility of commercialism

    The above idea as a citizens’ proposal to education and recreation gov’t depts.  Notice provided to all parents for endorsement in their communities, etc.

    We have to grasp the solutions for soonest implementation in order to reach the present highschoolers so Generation X won’t turn up Generation Y. Why, when, where and who made it happen—the complete loss of our youth?
    The answer will point to the Liberal reign at the turn of the century.  We can’t as citizens allow this and time is of essence.

    Anna Keightley,
    London, Ontario
    signing off

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  london, ontario  on  Wed, February 15, 2006 at 1:49:25 AM
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