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Sunday, December 18, 2005

Ottawa, we have a problem

Written by Joel Johannesen on Sunday December 18 2005 at 09:42 AM

Let’s go into outer space (liberal-left-run Canada) and see if we can spot the problem—and here’s a clue:  it’s not what Chuck or Annette think it is.

Brule couple stunned by immigration denial
By Sherry Martell
Truro Daily News
Saturday, December 17, 2005

When Annette Hunziker stopped to pick up the mail a few weeks ago her life came to a jarring halt.

For years, as American citizens, she and her husband Chuck had been awaiting final approval from Immigration Canada, so they could officially start building their new lives here.

But with the lift of an envelope flap, their dreams came crashing down.

“It said your application has been rejected,” said Annette. “I didn’t even try to read the reasons, my heart started to pound.

“It was so horrible, I had to find Chuck. My life stopped.”

She returned home to Brule, to find her husband puttering in his workshop.

“The moment our eyes met I started to cry,” she said. “I couldn’t even talk. It was such a shock.”

Three years have passed since their initial application to Immigration Canada, requesting permanent resident visas as entrepreneurs.

“We have followed every single rule, dotted every i, crossed every t. It will withstand any test,” said Chuck.

He has been active in the community for more than a decade and Annette, half that time. They bought the Village Florist shop in 2002, providing jobs for two others, and have volunteered thousands of hours to nonprofit groups.

A system of ranking potential entrepreneurial immigrants requires a minimum score of 35 out of 100. They easily made the grade with 79.

Now, rejected by the federal department, the couple can only remain in Canada until their visitors’ visas expire in September 2006.

Chuck, 63, and Annette, 51, feel the fact they are past normal child-bearing years went against them.

“I absolutely believe it is an age thing,” said Annette.

“We don’t fit the cookie-cutter criteria.”

Ron Heisler, director of operations for Nova Scotia and District with the Department of Immigration, said he could not comment on any specific file. However, in general, age is a factor along with other issues, but he said there is no preferred age group that would be selected over another.

“We figured if immigration had a problem they’d call, we’d meet and they’d get answers to their questions. That never happened,” Annette said.

Chuck says they are financially independent with enough income to sustain themselves with their savings and investments.

The couple have received hundreds of phone calls and e-mails of support. They have approached several politicians and high ranking officials pleading for help.

Devastated by the rejection, with no backup plan, the couple say as a last resort they will hire lawyers and fight to stay in Canada.

“I think we are part of the fabric of what is Tatamagouche,” said Annette.

“We are family. This is home.”


Give up?  Here’s the answer, I think.  I flagged the bad words as liberals would see them and as I imagine they’d mark them up on their tally sheets:

... application to Immigration Canada, requesting permanent resident visas as entrepreneurs.
... Chuck says they are financially independent with enough income to sustain themselves with their savings and investments ... He has been active in the community for more than a decade and Annette, half that time. They bought the Village Florist shop in 2002, providing jobs for two others, and have volunteered thousands of hours to nonprofit groups.

Plus, they’re not terrorists or gay or U.S. Army deserters or overt leftists or a visible minority group with lots of family ties back in some poor country.  That ain’t liberal! 

How in tarnation is the liberal-left going to gain any street cred (and votes!) unless people become totally and completely dependent and reliant in every which way upon the benevolent liberal-left nanny-welfare-state? 

The reader, Kim, who sent me the article said in his email:

This is an interesting story about how much disconnect there is in our immigration policy / dept. in this country.
Some of us cannot understand why our cities are full of terrorists, Jamaican gun-runners (the guns aren’t coming from the US), and ‘opportunists’ from around the world ... yet good, law abiding people who contribute are given the boot .... makes no sense to me.


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  1. odie441's avatar odie441 says:

    Joel, does this surprise you or any other on this blog? Remember the case of the South African businessman who was rejected because his disabled son woud be quote “a drain on our nedical system” unquote? This response from immigration Canada despite the fact this man was wealthy and willing to pay for any medical costs, a point he actually put in a legal and binding contract. I am willing to bet not only are these folks aged, bu they are also caucasian. I am NO RACIST but there is an awful lot of reverse discrimination going on in this Liberal dominated government. People should be judged on what they offer and what skills they bring to the table, how thet will contribute to Canadian Society, not by their age or the colour of their skin,,,or lack of colour.

    Posted by odie441  from  Ottawa area  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 10:04:53 AM
    — odie441's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!!

  2. odie441's avatar odie441 says:

    The Liberal immigration success story,,,a Canadian twist on thos old Ant and GrassHopper story

    CLASSIC VERSION:
    The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The shivering grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

    The End

    THE CANADIAN VERSION:
    The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he’s a fool, and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. So far, so good, eh?

    The shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others less fortunate, like him, are cold and starving.  The CBC shows up to provide live coverage of the shivering grasshopper, with cuts to a video of the ant in his comfortable warm home with a table laden with food.

    The NDP, the CAW and the Coalition Against Poverty demonstrate in front of the ant’s house. The CBC broadcasts them singing “We Shall Overcome.”  Sven Robinson rants in an interview with Peter Mansbridge that the ant has gotten rich off the backs of
    grasshoppers, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his “fair share”.

    In response to polls, the Liberal Government drafts the Economic Equity and Grasshopper Anti-Discrimination Act, retroactive to the beginning of the summer.  The ant’s taxes are reassessed, and he is also fined for failing to hire grasshoppers as helpers.

    Without enough money to pay both the fine and his newly imposed retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government.  The ant moves to the US, and starts a successful agribiz company.

    The CBC later shows the now fat grasshopper finishing up the last of the ant’s food, though Spring is still months away, while the government house he is in, which just happens to be the ant’s old house, crumbles around him because he hasn’t bothered to maintain it.

    Inadequate government funding is blamed, Roy Romanow is appointed to head a commission of enquiry that will cost $10,000,000.  The grasshopper is soon dead of a drug overdose, the Toronto Star blames
    it on the obvious failure of government to address the root causes of despair arising from social inequity.
    The abandoned house is taken over by a gang of immigrant spiders, praised by the government for enriching Canada’s multicultural diversity, who promptly set up a marijuana grow op and terrorize the community.

    The End

    Posted by odie441  from  Ottawa area  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 10:12:06 AM
    — odie441's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!!

  3. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    This is even more pathetic when you think of the Liberals scheme to allow parents of immigrants to come to Canada,with the thinking they will vote Liberal.The reason this couple was denied wasn’t their age but because they won’t vote Liberal.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  ajax,ontario  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 10:41:20 AM
  4. Canadian Railroader says:

    That’s really good work, Odie.  If it’s okay with you, I’m going to memorize that one for conversations with leftists!

    Posted by Canadian Railroader  from  Saskatoon, SK  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 10:50:40 AM
    — Canadian Railroader's   s i g n a t u r e:

    In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.  Dr. Martin Luther King jr.

  5. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    Well done, odie441.Your parable deserves wide circulation.

    Hey everyone: Please vote today. Go to http://www.conservative.ca and click on VOTE TODAY. Instructions are there for voters in or out of the country. You never know what snowstorm, emergency at work, or other unforseen event might keep you from the poll on Jan. 23. Vote today - pass it on.

    Cheers!

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 11:22:56 AM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  6. Friend of USA's avatar Friend of USA says:

    Odie441, I wish I could someday see an animated cartoon of that little story, it’s really quite good…

    Posted by Friend of USA  from  Montreal region.  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 1:29:41 PM
  7. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    If Annette was a stripper they would have got their work visa’s for sure.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Prairie Canada  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 1:35:10 PM
  8. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    ...People should be judged on what they offer and what skills they bring to the table, how thet will contribute to Canadian Society, not by their age or the colour of their skin,,,or lack of colour.

    People should be judged on what they offer and what skills they bring to the table, how thet will contribute to Canadian Society, not by their age or the colour of their skin,,,or lack of colour.

    ..If Annette was a stripper they would have got their work visa’s for sure.


    or if she was a gay stripping terrorist from a visible minority…...

    Joel, your highlighted words sum up why they can’t stay.  How sad.  I have a friend in the UK - his daughter and family (from the UK) have had their application rejected…...they’re also financially independent, have professions that would be useful here in Canada, so they went to Ireland instead and are flourishing.

    As for odie’s parable…..how Canadian, how true.  As excellent as it is, it’s a sad commentary on what the Liberals have done with immigration to Canada.

    It’s also sad when when we have to say we’re not racist when we discuss immigration this way.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 2:20:10 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  9. Dan says:

    LMAO….  odie441 very nice work. That is exactly how it would unfold.

    My wife and I have friends in the same boat.  He is American and his wife is Canadian.  They are married and have a child together born here in Canada.  He has his own local business that employs Canadians and pay taxes.

    They are fighting the system to gain status here in the country.  If he starts the process he faces the task of jumping at 72 hours notice to appear at a consulate office in the US (!?!?!) to apply for permanent residency.

    This is so ass-backwards.  He is discriminated against because he is:

    - american
    - speaks english
    - is white
    - is gainfully employed
    - proof of citizenship in her homeland

    He would be granted immediate entry to the country if he showed up at the airport:

    - speaking no english (or french)
    - not white
    - with no money
    - no passport despite boarding an international flight

    Posted by Dan  from  Calgary, AB  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 2:24:02 PM
  10. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    He would be granted immediate entry to the country if he showed up at the airport:

    - speaking no english (or french)
    - not white
    - with no money
    - no passport despite boarding an international flight

    ...and declared refugee status.  that would guarantee citizenship automatically.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 2:33:01 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  11. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Dan :

    Question :  What speaks no English , is not white , has no money , and has no passport ?

    Answer : A Liberal vote.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 2:34:27 PM
  12. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    answer to post #9 he would be admitted if he deserted from the american military

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Keene Ont.  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 2:49:52 PM
  13. Friend of USA's avatar Friend of USA says:

    Last year we had all kind of trouble because of a careless man living in the top floor condo suite - two floors above mine; he threw his cigarettes out the window and they would fall on our carpeted balcony floor, forgot his garage door open all day during a snow storm, he caused water damage 3 times, et cetera et cetera… but the man was from China and did not speak more than a dozen words of english and zero french, it was impossible to deal with him, he just smiled at us, it was a nightmare.

    He then sold his condo to a Chinese woman, she has caused some trouble too, not as bad, but we can not talk to her either, she smiles at us and can put a maximum of three english words together in a sentence and zero in french…

    This is not about them being Chinese, they could have been Portugese or whatever, I have absolutely nothing against any race or any ethnic group, this is about Canada accepting people who can’t make a sentence in neither french nor english, What’s up with that?

    A lot of immigrant where I live only hang out with people that speak their language, they watch satelite TV channels in their mother tongue, they send emails in their mother tongue, they shop in stores owned by people like them that speak their language…they almost never deal with people outside of their ethnic group, they live in a parallel world ...

    How do those people enrich Canada’s culture?

    An immigrant ( where was he from ? that is irrelevant, this is not about race. ) bought the corner store last year, within six months, he had every employee replaced by his family members that were so fluent in english (or french) that they had to point to the cash register display to make you understand the amount of your purchase…while smiling…

    Yeah my culture is really enrich by that.

    Thank you liberals.

    Posted by Friend of USA  from  Montreal region.  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 3:54:34 PM
  14. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    We’re all immigrants somewhere down the line.  I have no problem with any race or immigrants coming to Canada, but it is the government that has caused the problems….one word: Multiculturalism, which has created all of the problems we have within Canada.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 3:58:54 PM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  15. IamCanadian's avatar IamCanadian says:

    He would be granted immediate entry to the country if he showed up at the airport:

    - speaking no english (or french)
    - not white
    - with no money
    - no passport despite boarding an international flight

    ...and declared refugee status.  that would guarantee citizenship automatically.

    And receive approximately twice the amount paid to senior citizens on Canada Pension after working 40 years; for spending money as refugees each month

    Posted by IamCanadian  from  a long time ago  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 4:06:28 PM
    — IamCanadian's   s i g n a t u r e:

    The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis.
    ....Dante

  16. hedplug's avatar hedplug says:

    Ron Heisler, director of operations for Nova Scotia and District with the Department of Immigration, said he could not comment on any specific file. However, in general, age is a factor along with other issues, but he said there is no preferred age group that would be selected over another.

    Why is age even an issue? Isn’t that discriminatory for the Liberals? Maybe the couple should declare that they’re Lesbians, that could help their cause.

    Funny though….
    Didn’t our Liberal government intercede once in Syria for a terrorist immigrant clan operating from their base here in Canada while their family members worked for AlQuaeduh in Afghanistan? Better to let the Liberal voting terrorist clan in than honest hardworking contributing American’s. I hope they pirate some of Martin’s ships.

    Posted by hedplug  from  Gawd's Country  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 4:43:50 PM
    — hedplug's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Get out of your head and stand up for yourself! ME

  17. debsimms's avatar debsimms says:

    It is so sad that we live in such hypersensitve times that the important ideas discussed here would most certainly be over-simplified and misconstrued by lefties.

    On a slightly different note, is there something, deep in the lefty-mind that is afraid of the entreprenurial spirit? When Layton uses the word “profit” as in “for-profit daycare”, you can see it clearly disgusts him.

    Well, let me clarify that. Jack wears expensive suits and has that manicured metrosexual charm that only money can buy. But when he is stumping for the NDP, he holds his nose when talking about profit.

    Posted by debsimms  from  Ottawa  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 4:55:42 PM
    — debsimms's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Never retreat, never explain, never apologize. Just get the thing done and let them howl. Nellie McClung, via Deb Grey.

  18. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    debsimms :

    There is one great big profit-making machine alive and well here in Canada ; and an 11 Billion dollar surplus as the bottom line to prove it.

    We’re being fleeced by these socialists in Ottawa with over-taxation. About 250,000+ non-English speaking ‘voters’ enter this country now each year and are all too willing to support this arrogant government.

    What does the govt. do ?  Why , they send the educated , hard working , community-minded ones back where they came from.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 5:21:06 PM
  19. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    To offer just one anecdote I have: I work with a lady who married an englishman in Canada. For the past 21/2 years she has been trying with the help of an immigration lawyer to get citizenship for her new husband but to no avail. She has told me that the immigration department is purposely dragging its feet, and she felt, intentionally “losing” documents sent to them.

    So I asked her: “Is your husband white?” She replied, yes. I said, “Is your husband skilled?” She replied, yes he is an IT specialist. I then asked her, “Does your husband have any serious, politically correct disease such as AIDS or breast cancer?” She replied, no. Well, I said, that’s the problem! Your husband does not fit into the Liberal/socialist ideal of what an immigrant (read Liberal voter) should be. I then asked her to confirm this with her lawyer. Guess what!! She did, and said to me that her lawyer AGREED with me and my contentions!!

    Needless to say she’s voting Conservative.

    As I’ve always said, a knowledgeable Canadian is a Conservative voter!

    My God, this country is so perverse with having the lunatics running the asylum. How much more can we take!

    Only a Conservative government can correst the inherent masochistic idiocy of our current immigration and refugee policies!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  hamilton,ont.  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 5:56:03 PM
  20. odie441's avatar odie441 says:

    Just like his former boss Jean Chretien, Paul Martin stands up for terrorists. I guess it’s okay as long as they arn’t killing Canadian soldiers and citizens…...only Americans.

    Posted by odie441  from  Ottawa area  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 5:58:17 PM
    — odie441's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!!

  21. hedplug's avatar hedplug says:

    Speaking of politically correct, just heard this breaking news from Parliament Hill.

    VERY SAD NEWS INDEED

    There will be no Nativity Scene in Ottawa, Canada this year!

    The Supreme Court has ruled that there cannot be a Nativity Scene in Canada’s capital this Christmas season.  This isn’t for any religious reason, they simply have not been able to find three wise men and a virgin in the Nation’s capital.

    There was no problem, however, finding enough asses to fill the stable.

    Posted by hedplug  from  Gawd's Country  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 7:31:07 PM
    — hedplug's   s i g n a t u r e:

    Get out of your head and stand up for yourself! ME

  22. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    “...they’re not terrorists or gay or U.S. Army deserters or overt leftists or a visible minority group with lots of family ties back in some poor country.  That ain’t liberal!”

    Hahaha.  Too funny (and true)!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Saskatoon  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 8:56:50 PM
  23. Friend of USA's avatar Friend of USA says:

    Sorry to be off-topic…

    Remember when lefties were all too happy to say the Tsunami and Katrina, and all those poor people dying were all president Bush’s fault because he did not sign Kyoto?

    Well now that we know that the USA have reduced their emissions and Canada emission’s are up almost 30 %, If there is in a fact a connection between emissions and such disasters ( which so far has still not been proven ) isn’t Canada to blame for those two disasters?

    Don’t Canadian liberals have blood on their hands ?

    Posted by Friend of USA  from  Montreal region.  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 9:13:34 PM
  24. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    volunteered

    I was about to correct Joel when he mentioned “volunteered” as being a bad word to liberals. But after further review I would have to agree that “volunteered” would indeed be a bad word to liberals.

    It’s “involuntary servitude” that the liberals and NsDaP socialists want and like.

    Keep up the great work Joel cool grin

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Ontario  on  Sun, December 18, 2005 at 9:19:21 PM
  25. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Immigration problems?  Ha!  Look no further than lala land..we are and have been for a long time overflowing with illegal’s, terrorists, mind boggling levels of ethnic gangs shooting up our streets, invading our homes, importing massive amounts of illegal firearms, of course there is the highest levels of narcotic interdiction issues per capita in North America now. 

    Every conceivable special interest group has government sponsored representation here in Sodomy.  English is a minority language with Cantonese, Mandarin, Korean, Japanese, Vietnamese and Punjabi making up the lions share.  The running joke I hear on “the street” here is this geography question in our schools now, “What is the body of water separating China from India?  The Fraser River.”  Actually, that is quite accurate.  I have a home here in Shaughnessy (South Granville) which I am in the process of selling just to get the heck out ot Vancouver!!!  In three years owning here, I have only seen one non Asian home owner anywhere near my neighborhood!  The crime here in my community has even gone mental with constant home invasions, property crime, auto theft, drug operations in multi million dollar homes, murders, shootings and that is just for a start!!  Where am I buying, White Rock of course, very Conservative!!!

    Trudeau Sr.‘s compassionate society syndrome has/is destroying our country I believe.  This once terrific city has become a filthy ultra left wing freak show!  Sikh terrorists, Honduran drug dealers/pimps everywhere, ethnic gangs murdering, robbing, stealing, raping, pimping, threatening, anyone that gets in their way without a thought..deport them??  HAHAHAHA..the joke is on us popcorn eating and beer drinking miscreants that vote for those liberal/ndp syphilitic devil whores.  Oh, and then there is the epidemic amount of homosexual outdoor sex taking place in all of the cities parks..in particular downtowns Stanley Park.

    Do the the millionaire/billionaire criminals investing/immigrating here even have to disclose all of their offshore investments?  Of course yet another NDP appointed feminist court judge ruled now that all of the cases/convictions against the heads of organized crime syndicates here in B.C. are against the Charter..so all bets are off..so much for protecting society..unless the society your trying to protect is evil and undermining society. 
    Hmmm..

          Enough of my ramblings..

    I think we should completely revamp our immigration/refuge policies..

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Sodom & Gomorrah aka Vancouver  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 1:42:43 AM
  26. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Canadian Laws are same for all whether you are American or Zambian period.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 5:54:17 AM
  27. wellandboy says:

    We need more reports of these types of cases. About 10 years ago a young cousin of mine and his wife, he a fully apprenticed cabinet maker, she a phsysiotherapist thought about emigrating to Canada from Scotland. With credentials and money, they gave up after months of dealing with our immigration department. They would have been no burden to Canada once they arrived and would have made an immediate positive impact. Canada’s loss is Scotland’s gain. Shame.

    Posted by wellandboy  from  Welland Ontario  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 5:56:25 AM
  28. George's avatar George says:

    Trudeau Sr.’s compassionate society syndrome has/is destroying our country I believe.  This once terrific city has become a filthy ultra left wing freak show!  Sikh terrorists, Honduran drug dealers/pimps everywhere, ethnic gangs murdering, robbing, stealing, raping, pimping, threatening, anyone that gets in their way without a thought..deport them??

    Trudeau was a communist sympathizer.  I can’t say I miss him.  Remember his canoe trips to see his good buddy Fidel?  Trudeau embraced communism, yet his bane was “sleeping with an elephant”, so he wouldn’t dare impose it like he wished he could.  Cretien was part of that Liberal gang as well.  Another commrade in arms.

    Very pro communism, and very anti-American ( also therefore anti-Canadian).  Which, looking at it in these terms, it makes logical sense.

    I would submit that the people who are the most ferociously anti-American, are in fact closet communists.  I am not using that term lightly.  Listen to what these people say and then try to find a copy of the old publication of Pravda on the internet.  Compare the speeches.  You’ll see them for who they are.  Lots of anti-American propaganda, and the politics of fear and envy.

    If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s likely a duck.

    Posted by George  from  Halifax  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:01:38 AM
  29. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    WOW !!!! THOSE COMMENTS ARE JUST PLAIN RACIST. ONE THING YOU ARE FOGETTING IS THAT CANADA IS AN IMMIGRANT NATION AND WILL ALWAYS BE AN IMMIGRANT. AFTER WORLD WAR THERE WERE TRAIN LOADS OF EUROPEAN WHO CAME TO THIS COUNTRY EVERY DAY. ITALIANS WENT THROUGH THIS RACIAL CRAP BEFORE THAT IRISH WENT THROUGH THE SAME.
    I SEE MANY BUMS WHO SIT ON THEIR ASSES HERE DOING NOTHING AND COLLECTING THEIR PAY CHEQUES AND YES LOT OF WHITES TOO.
    FROM ALL THE CRIME STATS THAT YOU GAVE IT SEEMS LIKE ONLY MINORITIES ARE COMMITTING THE CRIMES. YOU ARE SO WRONG.
    I AM NOT SAYING THAT THERE IS NOT A PROBLEM THERE BUT JUST BLAMING ONE RACE OR OTHER IS REALLY IGNORANT. I WORK WITH MANY MINORITES AND MAJORITY OF THEM ARE HARD WORKING PEOPLE.
    SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS JUST MADE ME LAUGH.
    BOTTOM LINE IS THAT EVEN CONSERVATIVES WON’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION PROBLEM BUT I WILL VOTE FOR THEM

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:09:11 AM
  30. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    OK Lucie ...

    What do you tell the couple in Brule , NS , (the topic of this thread)?

    We pick up the paper and see stories such as theirs ; they pick up the paper and read about ‘new’ gun legislation , punks in TO killing each other , gangs , and general social disobedience.

    Don’t you think they are intelligent enough to connect the dots , like a lot of us are ?

    As Jean Chretien once said , “A proof is a proof , when it is a proof ... ”  (or words to that effect).

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:20:20 AM
  31. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    OK Lucie ...

    Its lacie..

    What do you tell the couple in Brule , NS , (the topic of this thread)?

    I have read many stories like that before. Its nothing new. Immigration system is screwed up.

    We pick up the paper and see stories such as theirs ; they pick up the paper and read about ‘new’ gun legislation , punks in TO killing each other , gangs , and general social disobedience.

    No denying that there is a problem and guns are coming from America.

    Don’t you think they are intelligent enough to connect the dots , like a lot of us are ?

    Sure..

    As Jean Chretien once said , “A proof is a proof , when it is a proof ... “ (or words to that effect).

    Never was a fan of Chretien. He is a clown, his words were always twisted just like his mouth.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:38:53 AM
  32. George's avatar George says:

    Social liberals are very emotional.  It’s hard to reason, as they can’t get past the sound of their own voice.  And they don’t want to let you speak, and refuse to hear another opinion.

    Hence the capitals in much of their posts. 

    I didn’t see anything racist in any of this.  If facts designate problems with a country’s policies regarding some (but not all) minorities, exposing this does not make you a racist.  It is a dirty game used expertly by the Liberals to try to extinguish intelligent debate.

    There are major gaps in their policy and they know it, but they can’t get the votes if they are honest. 

    Independently successful, skilled people do not need the government, no dependence therefore not Liberal, will not add to the voter base, so therefore not welcome in Canada.  Send us anyone else!  We don’t care if you are linked to terrorism!  If you are guilty of war crimes, This is Canada, everyone deserves a second chance.

    So to the compassionate Liberals out there..  A country that refuses entrance to an immigrant family that has a sick child because they will cause an extra burden on our “envy of the world” healthcare system is lacking social values indeed.  God forbid these people are skilled, financially stable, and able to pay for their own care!!!  Why that is not right!  Why that is not Canadian!!!  They will never be allowed to gain citizenship. 

    You Liberals are the racists!  You hate financially successful immigrants.  They will not depend on you. They DO NOT add to your vote so you don’t want those “kind” of people here!  Admit it.  Be honest for once.

    Posted by George  from  Halifax  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:44:25 AM
  33. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Trudeau Sr.’s compassionate society syndrome has/is destroying our country I believe.  This once terrific city has become a filthy ultra left wing freak show!  Sikh terrorists, Honduran drug dealers/pimps everywhere, ethnic gangs murdering, robbing, stealing, raping, pimping, threatening, anyone that gets in their way without a thought..deport them??

    You forgot to mention Tamil Gangs. My neighbour is a sikh and they are nice people . Sikh terrorism was a problem in 80’s but now there is no such thing as sikh terrorist. One thing that people keep ignoring is Tamilian links to the LTTE which is the most brutal terrorist organisation. They were using Suicide bombers long before anyone heard of a suicided bomber. They are involoved in lot of organised crime in Markham.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:46:08 AM
  34. odie441's avatar odie441 says:

    Lacie, please do not throw out the racist card so easily. Just because someone disagrees with your position does not make them a racist. This blog is an exchange of ideals, to be more specific, Conservative ideals. I am not a racist yet believe the immigration system is a mess. I am not anti-gay yet defend the traditional definition of marriage yet respecting the rights of gays and lesbiens to have all the rights available to them as Canadian citizens. I have my own religious belifs yet I believe that organized religion is a sham. So now the question arises, where do my beliefs place me, in the racist column? That’s where the left would put me. I prefer to be placed in a column that allows for free speech and and freedom to believe in what I choose, not what the Liberal left tells me I must believe. Conservatism gives me that place.

    Posted by odie441  from  Ottawa area  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:48:53 AM
    — odie441's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!!

  35. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Lacie, please do not throw out the racist card so easily. Just because someone disagrees with your position does not make them a racist.

    Ok, if I offended someone by saying that, I appolozise. I got the racist tone as just the monorities were mentioned. I remember recently a person who shot dead four RCMP officers and he was a white man. Don’t you agree with me that you can’t stick crime to one minority or other. Crime itself is an issue and not a minority issue.

    This blog is an exchange of ideals, to be more specific, Conservative ideals. I am not a racist yet believe the immigration system is a mess.

    Agree with you totally

    I am not anti-gay yet defend the traditional definition of marriage yet respecting the rights of gays and lesbiens to have all the rights available to them as Canadian citizens.

    I am all for what you say. Marriage is between man and women period.

    I have my own religious belifs yet I believe that organized religion is a sham. So now the question arises, where do my beliefs place me, in the racist column? That’s where the left would put me. I prefer to be placed in a column that allows for free speech and and freedom to believe in what I choose, not what the Liberal left tells me I must believe. Conservatism gives me that place.

    I am conservative in many values that I believe in and liberal on certain issues. I look at both sides but I always vote Conservative.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 6:59:03 AM
  36. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    If it’s so important to her, maybe Lacie should read our very own Peter Gnanapragasam’s columns.  Or Salim Mansur’s, or our Anthony Oluwatoyin’s, if she really wants to know what conservative thinkers think about our being “racists”. 

    Or she could talk to my sister who was born in Africa, and now lives in Hawaii. Too late to speak to my late father, who was born in France but raised in Belgium from Russian and Czech parents and grandparents from Norway and Russia but who eventually moved to Canada, or the other half of my family which lives in California, or my sister-in-law who married an East Indian and now have a beautiful family with recent grand kids…

    How insulting.  Am I a “homophobe” too, Lacie?  I demand an answer.  How about “angry”, and “unCanadian”?

    How about an apology.

    Thanks.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:01:27 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  37. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    odie441:

    Great post.

    I have always said it’s about time the Arab countries started taking responsibility for their own actions & make their extremists responsible too if they are serious about ‘peace’ (finally , Arab religious leaders are speaking out).

    Black church leaders in Boston took responsibility for the black crime/gang/gun violence , etc. in their city and called it exactly what it is : a black community problem caused by blacks in their own community , and not white society promoting the problem and responsible for the fix.

    If we could start defining the problem that exists in TO (guns/gangs , etc.) for exactly what it is (in real terms) , then this is a start. People are losing their lives and people are scared they’ll be labelled a racist by discussing it. Let’s talk about it openly.

    If the DEMAND for guns is in the black community (or minority) , then the SUPPLY will follow , from wherever. Do members of gun clubs use illegal weapons imported from the US or Jaimaca ? And , do their members indulge in shooting each other , everyday ?

    The story in this thread is about a law abiding couple who have never caused a problem in this country and have only contributed. They are being asked to leave. At the same time , we are embracing ‘cultures of violence’ by allowing people from other countries to come here and completely ignore our laws and disrepsect our culture. Are we asking them to leave ?

    Canada’s immigration policy is wrong and we are just beginning to see the results of a misguided Liberal vote-seeking policy.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:13:11 AM
  38. Friend of USA's avatar Friend of USA says:

    If I say that a lot of the best basketball players are blacks, or that a lot of the best concert pianists are Asians , it’s ok, I’m not a racist,

    but if I say that a lot of the crimes in large Canadian cities are commited by asians and blacks - which is an undeniable fact - I’m a racist???!!!...

    And what do we call those who can not see that neither statement is racist?

    Posted by Friend of USA  from  Montreal region.  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:16:16 AM
  39. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    How insulting.  Am I a “homophobe” too, Lacie?  I demand an answer.  How about “angry”, and “unCanadian”?

    How about an apology.

    Thanks.

    Joel, I already apolozied in my earlier post. I apologise again if I hurt anyone. Please don’t exadurate my words. I never said uncanadian.

    Or she could talk to my sister who was born in Africa, and now lives in Hawaii. Too late to speak to my late father, who was born in France but raised in Belgium from Russian and Czech parents and grandparents from Norway and Russia but who eventually moved to Canada, or the other half of my family which lives in California, or my sister-in-law who married an East Indian and now have a beautiful family with recent grand kids…

    I am impressed Joel. Didn’t know that at all.
    kiss

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:17:34 AM
  40. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Seems to me these poeple are just too successful for this country. They need to pretend theywill not survive unless helped by the governement, adding the word Lieral might solve their problem.

    Where do I sign up to sponsor or help these citizens, we need them, we need immigrants like them.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Ottawa  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:25:28 AM
  41. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    Lacie, after calling everyone here a racist (as if that isn’t hypocritical in the extreme), you presume to admonish me for “exaggerating” your words?  (I assume that’s what you meant by “exadurate”?) 

    Give me a large personal break.

    And Lacie, I didn’t see your latent apology until after I’d posted my comment, so suck your words back in, thanks (“Joel, I already apolozied in my earlier post…”)

    Lacie in the commenting instructions I implore people to preview their comments before clicking “SUBMIT”.  It’s not just to spell check.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:28:10 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  42. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Let’s all be clear as to the meaning of racism:

    Racism: a belief that race is the primary determinatin of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority in a particular race. (Websters)

    Is it not clear that by definition, the Department of Indian & Northern Affairs, affirmitive action programs, and all race-based government subsidies are racist?

    Would not a tolerant, fair, caring society treat all people as equals regardless of race? 

    Men and women should rise and fall, succeed or fail based on their own character, not on government favoritism.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Prairie Canada  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:28:39 AM
  43. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Lacie, after calling everyone here a racist (as if that isn’t hypocritical in the extreme), you presume to admonish me for “exaggerating” your words?  (I assume that’s what you meant by “exadurate”?)

    Give me a large personal break.

    And Lacie, I didn’t see your latent apology until after I’d posted my comment, so suck your words back in, thanks (“Joel, I already apolozied in my earlier post…”)

    Lacie in the commenting instructions I implore people to preview their comments before clicking “SUBMIT”.  It’s not just to spell check.

    My Bad…... wink

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:34:55 AM
  44. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Hey Joel,
    I was wondering when you are posting something about the Paul martin’s wheels coming off yesterday. I thought you would post something about his bandwagon story yesterday.

    Respecfully,

    LACIE

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:41:04 AM
  45. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    I don’t jump on bandwagons.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 7:51:23 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  46. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    I don’t jump on bandwagons.

    I know but that story is too spicy to let go…I watched that on CTV yesterday.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 8:00:12 AM
  47. ownshook's avatar ownshook says:

    I heard they didn’t return their Liberal membership cards.

    Seriously though…this is not surprising.  Canada has always enjoyed turfing those that have/can contribute to society or those that won’t be leaching off the social system.

    It is clear that these people are not in the thousands that the government can not locate.  The ones that go underground generally have something to hide and that should give all a pause to think.

    I would suggest to this couple that they start with Anti-U.S. banter, denounce Bush, claim Martin as their Mesiah.  I am sure they will be given the nod to stay.  hmmm

    Posted by ownshook  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 8:18:00 AM
  48. conservativegal's avatar conservativegal says:

    Post#29

    WOW !!!! THOSE COMMENTS ARE JUST PLAIN RACIST.

    When in doubt or don’t have facts to back up a position, this comment will suffice.

    Posted by conservativegal  from  Vancouver Island  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 8:44:52 AM
    — conservativegal's   s i g n a t u r e:

    “I am a Canadian, a free Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship God in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and for all mankind.”

    The Right Honourable John G. Diefenbaker, Prime Minister of Canada, House of Commons Debates on the Cdn. Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960

  49. ownshook's avatar ownshook says:

    When in doubt or don’t have facts to back up a position, this comment will suffice.

    I remember in grade 3 when I could not think of anything else to say…I fired off…”Ya well you are ugly!”  The racist card always reminded me of that.

    Posted by ownshook  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 8:53:02 AM
  50. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    To offer just one anecdote I have: I work with a lady who married an englishman in Canada. For the past 21/2 years she has been trying with the help of an immigration lawyer to get citizenship for her new husband but to no avail. She has told me that the immigration department is purposely dragging its feet, and she felt, intentionally “losing” documents sent to them.

    So I asked her: “Is your husband white?” She replied, yes. I said, “Is your husband skilled?” She replied, yes he is an IT specialist. I then asked her, “Does your husband have any serious, politically correct disease such as AIDS or breast cancer?” She replied, no. Well, I said, that’s the problem! Your husband does not fit into the Liberal/socialist ideal of what an immigrant (read Liberal voter) should be. I then asked her to confirm this with her lawyer. Guess what!! She did, and said to me that her lawyer AGREED with me and my contentions!!

     

    Needless to say she’s voting Conservative.

    As I’ve always said, a knowledgeable Canadian is a Conservative voter!

    My God, this country is so perverse with having the lunatics running the asylum. How much more can we take!

    Only a Conservative government can correst the inherent masochistic idiocy of our current immigration and refugee policies!

    nice story Amigo but not true…..you are telling me that the immigration department asks you if you are liberal or not…you are so full of it !!!

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 10:47:30 AM
  51. ownshook's avatar ownshook says:

    .....you are telling me that the immigration department asks you if you are liberal or not…

    Perhaps I missed where it is written or implied in that post that immigration inquired as to their political affiliation.

    Could you please highlight where this was stated?

    Posted by ownshook  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 10:55:26 AM
  52. odie441's avatar odie441 says:

    I suggest you read the post again samperfe,,,,,, No where does cj state that the immigration dept. asked if his friend was Liberal. He stated that

    Well, I said, that’s the problem! Your husband does not fit into the Liberal/socialist ideal of what an immigrant (read Liberal voter) should be.

    cj then goes on to say he suggested that she confirm it with HER lawyer, who apparrently agreed. cool smile

    Posted by odie441  from  Ottawa area  on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 12:29:37 PM
    — odie441's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I MAY NOT AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT I WILL FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO SAY IT!!

  53. Dacre says:

    Back in comment #28 George said

    Very pro communism, and very anti-American ( also therefore anti-Canadian).  Which, looking at it in these terms, it makes logical sense.

    I think this may be what Mr. Dithers is talking about when he says he wants to take Canada in a new direction. As you say they’ve all been communist sympathisers and have interests in China. It’s something else to worry about in my eyes.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Mon, December 19, 2005 at 1:19:26 PM
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