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Wednesday, April 02, 2008

One in six Canadians a visible minority…

Written by Joel Johannesen on Wednesday April 02 2008 at 07:53 AM

... and 9.9 in 10 “Canadians” (or hyphenated pseudo-Canadians, or refugees, or Guantanamo prisoners hoping to immigrate to Canada to join his family post-Afghanistan training, or folks living in Lebanon who are “Canadians”...) now more than ever before wonder what in tarnation “Canadian” means, aside from nothing—or anything—whatsoever.  This, despite the liberals’ CBC and the state bureaucrats creating and mandating that “Canadian Culture” for us with all those countless hundreds of billions of our taxpayer dollars, and all those Iranian-style “Canadian content” laws and such… 

One in six Canadians a visible minority

The face of Canada is rapidly changing as Canada’s visible minority population continues to soar, increasing at five times the growth in the population as a whole. ...  “If current immigration trends continue, Canada’s visible minority population will continue to grow much more quickly than the non-visible minority population” ...

 

This should help.



UPDATE (9:24 AM PDT):

I liked this knee-jerk attempt by the Liberal Frenchman Stephane Dion to cast Prime Minister Harper as some sort of racist or anti-immigrant blighter:

Dion uses Reform document to criticize Harper

CTV.ca News Staff

Using a 20-year-old Reform Party document authored by Stephen Harper, the Liberals tried to paint the prime minister as anti-immigrant Tuesday.

Liberal Leader Stephane Dion quoted the document in the House of Commons, which said immigration should not “radically or suddenly alter the ethnic makeup of Canada.”

“(This) may look like an attempt to deliver promises made by the Reform party 20 years ago,’’ Dion said, saying the old report was the inspiration for the Conservative’s [SIC] new immigration bill.

[...]

“Immigration should not be based on race or creed, as it has in the past; nor should it be explicitly designed to radically or suddenly alter the ethnic makeup of Canada, as it increasingly seems to be,” the report reads.

If you actually read the highlights of the report, the Reform policies I read make perfect sense to me and most Canadians, I think.  But as in this case of Dion and other knee-jerks and their intellectually dishonest effort to tarnish Harper, I have also instantly seemingly been charged with being a white supremacist or racist in the blog comments by someone calling himself “salvage”, pretty much for posting this blog entry with the news about the latest stats. 

Apparently, once again, if I and all of us don’t march in goose step to their liberal-left ideological drummer, then I’m a racist or a white supremacist and all those who wish to comment on it or discuss it are too.  Vote liberal.

(Naturally this reminds me of how it is and what I’m called when I don’t actively endorse and support and in fact encourage the homosexual lifestyle in every way;  and the Darwinian theory of evolution;  and the theory of “man-made global warming”;  and gay ‘marriage’; and “‘reproductive’ choice”; and more). 



UPDATE 2—10:19 AM PDT:

Interesting stat cited at the state owned CBC.ca web site in their story:

In total, 32 per cent of Canadians called themselves Canadian, a decrease from the last census, when 39 per cent listed themselves as Canadian.

It’s working, liberals! 

 

Posted by Joel Johannesen on   Wed, April 02, 2008 at 7:53:00 AM
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  1. salvage says:

    Canadian: a citizen of Canada.

    Race, creed and religion not a factor.

    Why do you care about “visible minorities”? What does that mater?

    Unless… only… Whites can be Canadian? Or you’re only comfortable if you’re surrounded by people that look like you? Pray to your god?

    One time my Lebanese-born hairdresser was telling me how the owner of her barbershop (dude from Vietnam) was coaching a little league team of Somali, Chinese and other recent immigrants.

    “Isn’t that weird?” she asked laughing.

    “Nope,” I said, ‘It’s Canadian.”

    Multiculturalism; all these different people living in peace and prosperity.

    Yeah, it’s just… awful.

    Once again, what are you proud about in your Canadianism?

    Posted by salvage  from  ottawa  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 8:51:36 AM
  2. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    savage, this is a warning to you:  Don’t you ever again insinuate that I’m a “racist”.

    If we in this country can’t comment on and have an intelligent, open discussion about the makeup of our country and its immigration policies (etc) without falling in line with exactly how YOU and liberal-leftists all collectively agree, and without being called a “racist”, then indeed this country is finished as a democracy. 

    And that will be your folly, not mine. 

    You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about with regard to how I feel or think, and you’re treading on dangerous territory insofar as your stint as Joel Johannesen critic at large, here at PTBC.

    I expect an apology.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 9:07:06 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  3. ownshook's avatar ownshook says:

    Joel…C’mon…you know that only moonbats can dictate what makes up a Canadian.
    Disagree with them…you are a racist.

    Those are the same people that believe we have a “Canadian culture” but for the life of them…they couldn’t really put it into words what THAT is.  Sure they will spout some half-baked feel good words but totally miss the point that many immigrants celebrate the culture they celebrated in their homeland. Sort of reminds me of multicultural and tolerant Britain who have immigrants marching in the streets with placards such as “Death to democracy”..or my personal fave “Britain..YOU have been WARNED”.

    In the end…..moonbats change whatever to suit them.  We are a nation of “Peacekeepers” don’t ya know….that is after being a formidable force in two world wars…..and after the Liberals chopped military spending to ramp up nanny state spending. 
    Disagree with them…you are a war monger.

    Posted by ownshook  from   on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 10:01:31 AM
  4. salvage says:

    Uh huh.

    You are obviously concerned about “visible minorities” whereas I don’t give a crap about who comes here legally to live their lives or what they look like because I’m not a racist, that is there’s the human race and the rest is window dressing.

    So if you want me to apologize for my insinuation (and I was and still am doing so but I’m prepared to if I’m in the wrong) answer the question; why do you care about the colour of people’s skin (that’s what “visible minority” means)? What does this statistic mean to you and what (if anything) do you want done about it?

    Posted by salvage  from  ottawa  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 10:30:10 AM
  5. Dacre says:

    This guy salvage is text book lefty alright. He has absorbed the propoganda and all of the politically correct thinking and speaking he has been taught. Just like a good little comrade. The type you could expect to see working at the re-education camps the left would like to set up for the likes of us neaderthals. And he actually believes in what he is saying with all of his heart I’m sure. He cannot see and absorb reality. He is truely one of the sheeple. Have we had any examples of salvage defending the fruit fly guy and the fantasy of MMGW yet? I’d be willing to bet any of us could write exactly what he would say. The rest of his comments are taken right out of the Book of Liberalism. I’m confident the rest of the package would fall into place as well.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 10:42:37 AM
  6. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    So Salvage, you think by protecting our heritage is racist? you think only white people are racist?
    I doubt it, as far as I am concerned, we are far from being racist, we take in people from around the world, give money away to countries who need it, but you still say we are racist. So since Japan does not have Immigration, and doesn’t want any other race mixing within their borders, what would you call them? what about Iran? how is their Immigration? or India? countries that shout out racism when picked on, but do nothing to help the world, how much money has Iran goven the poor around the world? or Saudi Arabia with all there wealth? how much aid have they given to none arab countries?
    What really makes me upset, is when visable minorities love Canada only when they get what they want, but when they don’t get what they want, Canada sucks.
    in Ontario, I would say 9 out of 10 cars that are driven by visable minorties have a car sticker of there home country, um, sorry, our flag is Red and White, that is the one they should be putting on their cars.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Kitchener Ontario  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 11:19:00 AM
  7. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    salvage re #4:

    You are obviously concerned about “visible minorities”

    Bucky, the article in all of the media today is exactly about “visible minorities”.  I blogged about the media articles, one of which is headlined “...visible minority”. 

    Why don’t you stomp over to CTV.ca and demand to know why they care about skin color? And your sacred CBC? And to every media outlet in Canada.

    Like most Canadians, I “give a crap” about the subject.  I choose to blog about what’s in the news and whatever I feel like blogging about.  And the fact that anything like this matters to me is not a cause for denunciation of any kind, in fact quite the contrary.

    So I won’t be put on the defensive by you and your preposterous charges, nor your transparent effort to marginalize me, or your effort to pin me or anyone down who doesn’t agree with you.  Certainly not by way of your effort to castigate me first, and then ask questions and demand answers later, as you are now doing. 

    If you can’t take a step back and back off those kinds of comments as I kindly suggested, then take a break from commenting here.

    Just to be clear: I made it a clear in my blog rules that I won’t personally be called a “Nazi” or a “racist” or any such thing (as is the wont of mindless liberals who can’t express their ideas lucidly).  That’s because it’s my blog and it’s a reasonable rule under the circumstances.  If you can’t restrain yourself, piss off. I really don’t care about that.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 11:29:44 AM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  8. Dacre says:

    I think you’re wasting your time Greg. You are trying to use facts,logic and common sense on a liberal/leftist. None of these things are effective. That’s the reason they invented and employ political correctness. It is a debate stopper. When confronted with truth and reality lefties reach for the medicine cabinet because the stress and pressure of the real world is overwhelming. That’s why they grasp onto the extended childhood and forever young ideal and demand the government be the parent.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 11:32:54 AM
  9. salvage says:

    >Why don’t you stomp over to CTV.ca and demand to know why they care about skin color?

    Because they don’t they’ve just reported the results, they offer no opinion on it.

    >Like most Canadians, I “give a crap” about the subject. 

    Why? What does more visible minorities mean?

    >or your effort to pin me or anyone down who doesn’t agree with you.

    Pin you down, that sounds reasonable.

    Do you have a problem with viable minorities increasing in Canada? If so why?

    It’s interesting, you seem upset about my suggesting that you’re racist but you haven’t actually denied it. I think you’re one of those guys who is a racist but thinks it’s a good thing.

    Here’s an example:

    >So Salvage, you think by protecting our heritage is racist?

    Such a bizarre term, what exactly does that mean? What is your heritage and how is it threatened? More viable minorities are a threat to it? Because the majority of Canadian immigration was White European it should always be so?

    >you think only white people are racist?

    Nope, I think all people can be racist.

    Posted by salvage  from  ottawa  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 11:56:48 AM
  10. salvage says:

    >we take in people from around the world,

    give money away to countries who need it, but you still say we are racist.

    We sure do and that’s super cool and I’m not saying “we” are racist. I’m saying people who fret about visible minorities are or at least seem to be.

    >So since Japan does not have Immigration, and doesn’t want any other race mixing within their borders, what would you call them?

    The Japanese are a hideously xenophobic people; it’s not racism exactly but close enough. If you go to Japan they don’t hate you, it’s more a condensation or a pity that you’re not Japanese. They’ve made progress but they’re an ancient civilization and that stuff is pretty ingrained, they’ve only started smartening up in the last 30 years or so. It’ll take a few more generations before they grow up.

    >what about Iran? how is their Immigration?

    Who cares? It’s a crap hole who would want to live there?

    >or India?

    Ditto. Why do you think so many Indians come here? Good thing too, their food kicks ass.

    >countries that shout out racism when picked on, but do nothing to help the world, how much money has Iran goven the poor around the world? or Saudi Arabia with all there wealth? how much aid have they given to none arab countries?

    Dunno, not much, they’re jerks. Who cares what they do?

    >What really makes me upset, is when visable minorities love Canada only when they get what they want, but when they don’t get what they want, Canada sucks.

    Huh? Like who, what and when? And so what? A few jerks means you punish the ones that are grateful? And we have freedom of speech, they can say whatever they like about wherever they want.

    >in Ontario, I would say 9 out of 10 cars that are driven by visable minorties have a car sticker of there home country, um, sorry, our flag is Red and White, that is the one they should be putting on their cars.

    Oh. So your heritage must be protected but theirs disposed of? If someone has a Maple Leaf on their bumper are they automatically good? A foreign flag means they’re bad?

    The only obligation any citizen has to Canada is to obey the laws (well most of ‘em anyway) and pay their taxes, they can say Canada sucks, they can run around with whatever flag they like.

    See you want them to be like you (the beating heart of bigotry) whereas I want them to be like however they please (that’s freedom).

    Posted by salvage  from  ottawa  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 11:57:01 AM
  11. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) says:

    Salvage: I like your “WHO CARES” attitude!
    typical liberal talk, just accept the world, if you don’t your a racist….

    -” See you want them to be like you (the beating heart of bigotry) whereas I want them to be like however they please (that’s freedom).”

    Makes me ask one question, why would they leave their Country, if they are just wanting to live exacly as they were in their home land?
    In Ontario, Muslims just about had enough support to debate weather to have Sharia Law be the law of all Muslims in Ontario, but didn’t….. thats scary.
    To be in Canada, you must adopt our way of living, it’s simple, not racist. if not, they can stay away.

    Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  from  Kitchener Ontario  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 12:14:44 PM
  12. salvage says:

    >typical liberal talk, just accept the world, if you don’t your a racist….

    Nonsense, accept people for who they are and not what they are, nothing to do with the world.

    >Makes me ask one question, why would they leave their Country, if they are just wanting to live exacly as they were in their home land?

    Grinding poverty, endless violence, oppression etc. They want to live their lives in peace and prosperity which we have in abundance here and they can live that life how they like, within the law of course.

    >In Ontario, Muslims just about had enough support to debate weather to have Sharia Law be the law of all Muslims in Ontario, but didn’t….. thats scary.

    The certainly did not, what actually happened was they noticed the Jewish community had their own religious based court for small legal and family matters and wanted the same. McGuinty showed good leadership by yanking the whole stupid idea and that was that.

    >To be in Canada, you must adopt our way of living, it’s simple, not racist. if not, they can stay away.

    Nope. To be in Canada you must obey the laws, you may live in whatever way you like within them.

    Posted by salvage  from  ottawa  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 12:22:26 PM
  13. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    Salvage, the ever-increasingly obvious nitwit states the following:

    Because they don’t they’ve just reported the results, they offer no opinion on it. 

    So you say that I have offered an opinion on it, yet you demand to know my opinion on it.

    But anyway, salvage, you’ve called me a racist.  And you fail to prove it.  And you’re wrong.  You’re a bigot, and a lousy debater. And you’re wasting our time and space.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 12:39:53 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  14. ownshook's avatar ownshook says:

    salvage says:

    “The Japanese are a hideously xenophobic people”
    “they’re an ancient civilization”
    “they’ve only started smartening up in the last 30 years or so. It’ll take a few more generations before they grow up. “

    What a very UNLiberal bigotted way of thinking.  You come on this board with your feathers all fluttered and then go on to generalize the Japanese and even better…because what they may/may not believe does not suit you….you slur an entire population.

    In your post #10…you say,in regards to those who slur our country…”
    And we have freedom of speech, they can say whatever they like about wherever they want. “      Correct…and Joel and whomever else can say whatever they want without having to answer to an obvious hypocrite like you.

    Posted by ownshook  from   on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 1:37:44 PM
  15. John I says:

    Both Stephane Dion and Stephen Harper are pros when it comes to knee-jerk politics. There is nothing special or unique about Dion’s latest accusation in comparison to Harper’s TV ads attacking Dion’s character. They all act like 6 years olds in the sandbox!

    Posted by John I  from  Ontario  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 2:19:17 PM
  16. Don-t Want To's avatar Don-t Want To says:

    I have read this several times and can only come to the conclusion that Dion obviously is opposed to the following statement:

    Liberal Leader Stephane Dion quoted the document in the House of Commons, which said immigration should not “radically or suddenly alter the ethnic makeup of Canada.”

    Meaning that immigration should suddenly alter the ethnic makeup of Canada?

    Posted by Don-t Want To  from   on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 2:20:45 PM
  17. John I says:

    Don-t Want to> Well to be fair, just because he opposes one statement does not automatically mean that he agrees with its inverse.

    Posted by John I  from  Ontario  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 5:01:13 PM
  18. Joel Johannesen's avatar Joel Johannesen says:

    Yeah it kinda does.

    Posted by Joel Johannesen  from  Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada  on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 5:18:19 PM
    — Joel Johannesen's   s i g n a t u r e:

    I could hardly believe “ProudToBeCanadian” was available when I was looking for a web site domain name.  No liberal thought of it?  It took a true blue CONSERVATIVE to think of buying that name and starting a web site built around it?  What does that tell you?  ...  Please remember to support this site.

  19. ward says:

    So I guess you have to be brown to be a “visible” minority”. So all of us whities are clumped into one group? All the same regardless of our ethnic heritage?

    Posted by ward  from   on  Wed, April 02, 2008 at 10:42:49 PM
  20. salvage says:

    COMMENTS DELETED.  Salvage called me a racist and implied I was a white supremacist.  “...Personal insults lobbed against Joel Johannesen or any of the columnists will simply be deleted and your commenting privileges suspended…”

    —Joel

    Posted by salvage  from  ottawa  on  Thu, April 03, 2008 at 8:57:18 AM
  21. ownshook's avatar ownshook says:

    Do you mean the same intolerant salvage that said:

    The Japanese are a hideously xenophobic people”
    “they’re an ancient civilization”
    “they’ve only started smartening up in the last 30 years or so. It’ll take a few more generations before they grow up. ”

    You really have to be amazed at the utter ignorance and hypocrisy exibited by people like salvage.

    Posted by ownshook  from   on  Thu, April 03, 2008 at 1:12:52 PM
  22. Dacre says:

    Yes it is amazing ownshook. And these same self declared superior human beings are oblivious to their flagrant racism, bigotry and hypocrisy.

    Posted by Dacre  from   on  Thu, April 03, 2008 at 2:47:05 PM
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